345>It seems like every day when I go online to get news, I come across a report about a new study that %26quot;suggests%26quot; something or states emphatically that ________ %26quot;may%26quot; cause ________.
What on earth are we expected to do with such vague non-conclusions? Alter what we%26#039;re doing? Quake in our boots? Run screaming for the hills like psychotic banshees?
It%26#039;s all rather ludicrous. Look at how science will say that something definitely causes cancer, then will recant that claim a few years later.
I%26#039;m certainly not anti-science. I just think it%26#039;s odd that things are published that are, in fact, only hunches as opposed to conclusive determinations.
If all these highly funded scientists want to study something worthwhile, how about getting to the bottom of where those extra socks go everytime we lose one in the laundry?
Reply:Plato said that %26quot;Science is true speaking%26quot;, not probably true speaking.
You are absolutely right about this phenomenon.
This craziness about probably truth conquer us all.
Internet is not the only space that they can spread these anti-scientific rumors.
Generally, west science believes that experiment is science and so we came to conclusion that only experimenting with something we become scientists.
Wednesday, February 11, 2009
Girls Only!!!!Help!?
344>Okay, so i had a lot of the symptoms for a yeast infection, they%26#039;ve pretty much gone away. I didn%26#039;t do much about it(when i had the symptoms), i mean i used anti-odor wipes and anti-itch cream, but i didn%26#039;t take anything like over the counter wise,my mom bought some for me, but I didn%26#039;t use it because it was this huge pill/egg shaped thing that you stick up your...eh...hole and i wont even use a tampon! So...is there any sickness or cancer i should be worrying about? Thanks, and uh please dont make fun of me...:)
Reply:If you are sure that you had a yeast infection, and it %26quot;went away%26quot;, you can definitely expect it to return...if you don%26#039;t treat a yeast infection properly, it can %26quot;go away%26quot; but never really be cured...when the symptoms come back, you should definitely go to your doctor and YES there is a pill you can take instead of OTC solutions...it%26#039;s called Diflucan. Look it up on google or just ask your doc/pharm about it. Also, you can always use Monistat which is very effective. But whatever you do, when the symptoms come back, def go to your doctor and ask about Diflucan. Also, eat yogurt daily as a snack as it can help prevent yeast infections and actually help to speed up the curing process. Another big thing is, if you think you still %26quot;have it%26quot; but the symptoms are dormant...do not have unprotected sex with your partner (if you have one) because guys can be a %26quot;host%26quot; for the infection and just keep spreading it back to you once you even treat it!!! Be careful and good luck!
Reply:u should really consider seeing a doctor any infection in that area left untreated can lead to cancer down there %26amp; a yeast infection is nothing to be embarassed about many if not all women have had at least one!
u should take the meds ur mom bought for u if ur afraid of pain there is next to none but it msy be a little messy when the meds begin to dissolve
Reply:No I don%26#039;t think so. But I think sometimes people who get yeast infection get them again.
If yougot through this one with no medication that%26#039;s great. Hopefully it won%26#039;t happen again, maybe your body built an immunity to it on it%26#039;s own.
Reply:The problem is, that since you covered the symptoms of the yeast infections, you didn%26#039;t cure the yeast infection. You may experience a re-occurance, and even more severe symptoms. You don%26#039;t have to be nervous about inserting the medicine, follow the directions...it will be worth it, considering the discomfort of yeast infections. Other than that, I don%26#039;t know of anything else that you should worry about.
Reply:Yeast infections can be painful and very irritating. You should say something to your doctor next time you visit. In the meantime you should avoid things like sitting in the bath tub avoid scented products like douches, bath soaps, and scented pads or tampons, these can all aid in yeast infections.
I wouldn%26#039;t worry too much about cancer but you really should talk to your doctor. Its possible it could be something else like atopic dermatitis. I dont know how old you are but if you are sexually active, remember that yeast infections and sexually transmitted diseases have very similar signs and symptoms.
Reply:If you are sure that you had a yeast infection, and it %26quot;went away%26quot;, you can definitely expect it to return...if you don%26#039;t treat a yeast infection properly, it can %26quot;go away%26quot; but never really be cured...when the symptoms come back, you should definitely go to your doctor and YES there is a pill you can take instead of OTC solutions...it%26#039;s called Diflucan. Look it up on google or just ask your doc/pharm about it. Also, you can always use Monistat which is very effective. But whatever you do, when the symptoms come back, def go to your doctor and ask about Diflucan. Also, eat yogurt daily as a snack as it can help prevent yeast infections and actually help to speed up the curing process. Another big thing is, if you think you still %26quot;have it%26quot; but the symptoms are dormant...do not have unprotected sex with your partner (if you have one) because guys can be a %26quot;host%26quot; for the infection and just keep spreading it back to you once you even treat it!!! Be careful and good luck!
Reply:u should really consider seeing a doctor any infection in that area left untreated can lead to cancer down there %26amp; a yeast infection is nothing to be embarassed about many if not all women have had at least one!
u should take the meds ur mom bought for u if ur afraid of pain there is next to none but it msy be a little messy when the meds begin to dissolve
Reply:No I don%26#039;t think so. But I think sometimes people who get yeast infection get them again.
If yougot through this one with no medication that%26#039;s great. Hopefully it won%26#039;t happen again, maybe your body built an immunity to it on it%26#039;s own.
Reply:The problem is, that since you covered the symptoms of the yeast infections, you didn%26#039;t cure the yeast infection. You may experience a re-occurance, and even more severe symptoms. You don%26#039;t have to be nervous about inserting the medicine, follow the directions...it will be worth it, considering the discomfort of yeast infections. Other than that, I don%26#039;t know of anything else that you should worry about.
Reply:Yeast infections can be painful and very irritating. You should say something to your doctor next time you visit. In the meantime you should avoid things like sitting in the bath tub avoid scented products like douches, bath soaps, and scented pads or tampons, these can all aid in yeast infections.
I wouldn%26#039;t worry too much about cancer but you really should talk to your doctor. Its possible it could be something else like atopic dermatitis. I dont know how old you are but if you are sexually active, remember that yeast infections and sexually transmitted diseases have very similar signs and symptoms.
What will you think about Iran after learning some of the facts about it?
342>I believe that if you spend 10 minutes reading this essay, you will be better informed than if you listen to a lifetime%26#039;s worth of Major Media news. This article has two parts:
1. Cultural and general info
2. Political info.
Note: I%26#039;ve explained everything.Any answers before reading the whole thing will prove to be wrong.Specially the political part.I%26#039;ve provided evidence for whatever I say.It%26#039;s just the way it is.
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Part 1: Cultural and general info
Hi. I%26#039;m a 19 year old Iranian who has spent his life in Iran.I study English.When I chat with people from other countries, I am shocked to see how totally wrong their ideas are about Iran. I wrote this article in an attempt to help correct those ideas.
The first thing the West accuses our government of is that we don%26#039;t allow personal freedoms. Actually, Iranians disobey laws they don%26#039;t like as much as anyone.There are only a few restrictions.It%26#039;s cool over here. People here do whatever they wish to! Many strict rules in other countries don%26#039;t even exist in Iran. Also, you should understand that what may seem so normal to you, may be a nightmare for us and vise versa.Some of Iran%26#039;s laws are based on OUR culture. You look at our country from %26quot;your own point of view%26quot;! In Iran most houses have a sattelite dish. Sattelite television has a serious influence on our people, and Iranians wear very fashionable clothing. Maybe it is a kind of imitation, but we still have our own unique Iranian style. A visitor might wonder if this is a country or a fantasy pageant of beauty queens! Make-up and fashionable clothing are everywhere.I ignore a few fuddy-duddies though!
In my view, everything is great, if you ignore unemployment, drugs, inflation and air pollution. Also, you can%26#039;t compare Iran today with the Iran you remember. The Shah and the Iatollah Khomini are both some 30 years in the past! 70% of Iran%26#039;s population is a new generation (Under age 30) without the biases of the past and we%26#039;ve transformed everything.
Ever heard Iranian girls are terrific?I%26#039;ve collected some photos showing Iranian girls! Look! Poeple are like this!
http://www.salijoon.ir/bazigar/hedye%20t...
http://www.30nema.com/images/gallery/30n...
http://i10.tinypic.com/4clk3us.jpg
http://tinypic.com/2d0nfao.jpg Is that enough?!
Some people think women don%26#039;t have any rights in Iran. But in my view, women are overrunning the place. They%26#039;re very respectful, and they%26#039;ve been the winners in so many cases: Most of them get into the best universities because they%26#039;re very smart. And they get the best jobs because of their high university degrees. They%26#039;ve got Islamic rights, and that has in some cases made it difficult for men to marry them, because husbands are supposed to buy them expensive things and treat them very well, otherwise women have the right to ask a great amount of money (called Mehr) according to the law, which most husbands cannot afford, so men will be imprisoned.The only thing that women are not allowed to do in Iran is getting into public football stadiums and that%26#039;s because such places are full of cheeky guys. They do anything from taking part in rallies to singing pop songs.Anything! I%26#039;ve put a sample here.
Another funny thing: Your footage about stoning the women who have committed adultery. Have you ever asked yourselves how many years ago that footage related to? But in one case the thing that had happened was incest not adultery. Most of those footages relate to the early days just after Iran%26#039;s revolution! Otherwise you%26#039;d get new footages at least once a month!What exactly makes you think women are treated differently?The way they are treated in Saudi Arabia? Try to think of the racism in your country too.I found a BOOK of the U.S problems and it got me dizzy! Iran has its own problems too. Each country has its own problems.
Iran, Iraq and Afghanistan are --------- SEPERATE COUNTRIES! --------- Even within Iran, 60% of us are Persian and 30% are Turkish! Iran is a normal country like any other in the world. The Media are very good at creating really scary stuff: %26quot;IRAN BEHIND THE CLOSED DOORS!!!%26quot; %26quot;IRAN UNDERCOVER!!!%26quot; Some of that garbage would be enough to scare ME away! But in truth, Iranians are far more open-minded than you have been led to believe.
There are lots of Iranians today who are geniuses and scientists, and are all under age 25. For instance a 17 year old boy has invented 72 amazing inventions. Every year a special scientific compeition is held here and students assemble to show off hundreds of inventions. Iranian students and sportsmen win gold and silver medals in different competitions in the world all the time, in robotics, biology, maths, physics, sports, anything! Why don%26#039;t the Media talk about them? Please don%26#039;t summarize our nation and culture with the single word %26quot;nuclear%26quot;. Although we%26#039;re proud of this achievement because we believe that having nuclear energy means that a country is developed.
A few months ago Iran uncovered the most effective anti-H.I.V medicine. I searched for news of that on the internet, but there was no single sign of it.Now, I found it among the English news: %26quot;The medicine is produced from herbs using nano technology%26quot; The link to read about it is: http://www.payvand.com/news/07/feb/1032....
The Media are unjust. They never talk about facts!
Some interesting facts:
Iran is a pioneer in medicine and genetics, and Iranian surgeons have found lots of new methods for treating spinal defects, and many diseases (mainly the treatment for different types of cancer) and the best brain and heart surgeons are Iranian.The pioneer in heart transplants and artificiall hearts and so on and so! (I%26#039;ve put two websites below) The head of the Mars Mission in NASA is Iranian. One of the best designers of sports cars working in Germany is Iranian. Some of the best 3D animators are Iranian. Iran is one of the best countries in counter-engineering. Holds the second place in building dams and in loads of other things! It%26#039;s one of the top countries in bio-technology and nano-technology. The 4th highest tower in the world (Milad tower) is in Tehran (visit it at this link from wikipedia: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Milad... ). 51 of the top 100 universities in the Mid-East are in Iran, and they%26#039;re among the top universities of the world as well. The champion weight-lifter, a woman the nobel peace prize are Iranian. The 6th top movie director in the world is Iranian.(Abbas Kiarostami) http://arts.guardian.co.uk/fridayreview/...
These are just small samples.If the media told you about Iran%26#039;s achievemens everyday and didn%26#039;t hide them, your news would be full of Iranian news!Iranian girls are famous for being terrific. We have Persian rugs and Persian literature, many Persian poets, artists and scientists that are world famous. Iranian culture is now westernized and only a little of the ancient culture has survived. According to statistics Tehran is the cheapest capital city in the world (one Dollar =about 950 Tomans) There are many other things. How many pages would you need to describe a country? Iran has nearly all the industries and technologies found in %26#039;developed%26#039; countries. Oh, and we have four seasons! We get a lot of snow and there are skating rinks! lol The list is endless.
I%26#039;m gonna introduce Iran%26#039;s international news website to you (Press TV) which was established recently. It%26#039;s fully in English. In the %26quot;Sic / Tech%26quot; section you%26#039;ll always see Iran%26#039;s discoveries. The address is: http://www.presstv.ir/news.aspx Press TV news: Iranian scientists have registered more than 4800 inventions during the last Iranian calendar year of 1385 (April 21 2006-April 20, 2007). 4800 inventions in just one year!
The list of highly-respected Iranian scientists and engineers in the world: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Modern_Iran...
The list of notable Iranian figures and pioneers: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Contemporar...
An extract: Iranian medical community is a significant part of medical community in US and Europe
Enough evidence?
Some people think Iran is a desert! Well, it is, if you consider California a desert. We share the same latitude. Iran is a modern country with breathtakingly beautiful nature and lots of historic places to visit. Please take a look at the following links to see if Iran looks like what you think or not! This is a photo of Tehran (Awesome, Isn%26#039;t it?): http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/co...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tehran
If you like you can visit these too, hundreds of pretty photos from the cities, nature and historic places:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Hills...
http://www.pbase.com/k_amj/throughout_ir...
http://www.pbase.com/k_amj/throughout_ir...
http://www.pbase.com/k_amj/throughout_ir...
http://www.bigsoccer.com:80/forum/showth...
http://www.bigsoccer.com/forum/showthrea...
http://www.bigsoccer.com/forum/showthrea...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iran
Some people think music is forbidden in Iran. %26quot;Music of Iran and Iranian musicians have received countless awards in the course of history. Every year from 1977 to 2007.Evidence? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Music_of_Ir...
I send Iranian music to my American and Canadian chat friends and they all say they%26#039;re some of the best songs they%26#039;ve ever heard.
Here%26#039;s a sample of the latest hits from two official Iranian music websites.You can just right click on the links below and choose %26quot;Save Target As%26quot; to download them. Iranian music is just modern pop and the best sort of it.
1.(You know this: 2007) http://download.bia2music.com/Music/Iran...
2.(Hold my hand: 2007) http://www.sarzaminmp3.com/Sarzaminmusic...
3.(The wetness of your eyes: 2006) http://download.bia2music.com/Music/Iran...
4.(I just want you: 2003) http://download.bia2music.com/Music/Iran...
5.(The rain: 2007) http://download.bia2music.com/Music/Iran...
6.(The window: 2005) http://www.sarzamin.org/Sarzaminmusic/Pe...
7.(Keep me in your memory: 2005) http://www.sarzamin.org/Sarzaminmusic/Pe...
8.(Farangis %26quot;A female name%26quot; 2007) http://download.bia2music.com/Music/Iran...
9.(The distance: 2007) http://www.sarzaminsong.com/Sarzaminmusi...
10.(Sunrise: 2007) http://www.sarzaminsong.com/Sarzaminmusi...
11.(Stop world:2006) http://www.sarzaminmusic.com/Sarzaminmus...
12.(You can%26#039;t: 2007) http://www.sarzaminmp3.com/Sarzaminmusic...
And so on and on!
It%26#039;s now 2007 and most people still think we are uneducated people living in deserts and riding camels!
Part 2: Political info.
Let%26#039;s clarify some political issues as well: Some of the Americans think that president Ahmadinejad hates the U.S and Israel and wants to nuke them!! The Media are good at putting lying comments out there. I really don%26#039;t get the point why our politicians defame themselves by talking about things that have got nothing to do with us. The thing is that they occasionally make some statements that the media would make them controversial topics to interest its viewers! For example they pick up some specific phrases of a long speech (without refering to the main points and reasons for that speech) and put so many bad comments on that.
First of all, Iranians don%26#039;t hate anyone.We hate neither Jews nor Americans. How would our guys dream of America, want to be like them as much as possible, and hate them at the same time?! The truth us that Iranians are the only people in the Mid-East that are pro-American! Being agaisnt the U.S policies is a different story! We live basically the same lives.Don%26#039;t look at the way women dress in public places! You%26#039;ve got to see them in other places!I%26#039;ve got to say that for Iran, Israel is not equal with Jews! Israel is a gov%26#039;t. Jews are faithful people! 20,000 Jews and lots of Christians live here equally with Iranians and two of Iran%26#039;s parliment members are Jews. Who says we want to force others to convert to Islam? Have you ever found a Moslem knocking at your door asking you to do so?
Christians and Jews are both God-believers and respectful to us.
I wonder who Iran is really a threat to. Is it logical to say someone%26#039;s guilty because we THINK / PREDICT that he%26#039;s going to do something wrong? And they repeat the same %26quot;nuclear weapons%26quot; tosh over and over and brainwash people! Correction! It%26#039;s %26quot;nuclear energy%26quot;. Besides, how many %26quot;nuclear weapons%26quot; do they have themselves? Hundreds of thousands? Has Iran ever attacked any countries? No. Has it developed any nukes? No! That%26#039;s what nuclear agency says. Only Iran%26#039;s opponents are pulling Iran%26#039;s leg and what they say is just based on political conflicts. What we%26#039;re doing is legal. Iran is a peaceful country. Why? It%26#039;s the regional super-power and if she wanted, she could easily invade the countries in our neibourhood just like what Saddam did to our country, but as you see Iran has peaceful relations with all of them.
Some people say he said: Israel should be wiped off the map! the thing is that he exactly said: %26quot;The Imam %26quot;Khomeyni%26quot; said this regime occupying Jerusalem must vanish from the page of time.%26quot;They%26#039;ve only told you this phrase not the whole thing and it%26#039;s mistranslated intentionally. Besides, they%26#039;ve been saying such things for a long time.It%26#039;s their habit.Here%26#039;s an article.%26quot;Wiped off the map....The roumor of the century.Read how the media and the U.S newspapers have twisted it into a controvertioal topic. http://www.antiwar.com/orig/norouzi.php?... Now you see that you were wrong.Iran has always defended itself, but it%26#039;s not an offensive country.
Some say he%26#039;s said: %26quot;The Holocaust is a myth!%26quot; Again, this is a single phrase taken from a long speech and there are totally logical reasons for saying so. If 6,000,000 Jews were killed, that%26#039;s terrible, but 300,000 Shiite Moslems killed by Saddam aren%26#039;t important at all? Over 650,000 Iraqi people are killed and that%26#039;s not important?! When Fox News simply says that America and Israel are capable of destroying and killing Iran%26#039;s population of 69,000,000 within two weeks, it%26#039;s OK and no one says they%26#039;re threatening other countries to nuke them (I saw this with my own eyes on the Fox News website) Millions of people killed in Afghanistan, Hiroshima %26amp; Nagasaki and the Vietnam war are not considered human beings at all! Now I think you%26#039;d get the point why he%26#039;s IRONICALLY said it%26#039;s a myth. Moreover, don%26#039;t you believe in freedom of speech/mind? Well, if you%26#039;d like to blame someone for that, hope in a time-machine and sue Hitler! lol
Some countries are using Iran as a scapegoat to put the blame (for their own faults) on.
This part is just for Americans:
Those of you who say why Iran says %26quot;Death to America%26quot;:
1. %26#039;America%26#039; to us means the U.S govt, not the people. How do you expect Iranians to mean %26quot;American people%26quot; when our media admires Americans for marching and holding up %26quot;no war%26quot; placards?! Also, I see a lot of %26quot;Let%26#039;s nuke Iran%26quot;s on YA.Isn%26#039;t that a kind of %26quot;Death to Iran%26quot;?
2. The new generation don%26#039;t say such things and if some of them occasionally march in the streets that%26#039;s because some of the stupid guys enjoy making noise and they mainly go out there to meet their girlfriends/boyfriends! Strange. Isn%26#039;t it?
3. Such mottos are not just said in Iran and as you know whatever you hear is a response to the U.S govt%26#039;s terrible actions which has made life for many people hell (You wouldn%26#039;t deny that attacking countries is a mistake. Would you?)
4. U.S. companies assistance in developing Iraq%26#039;s chemical weapons facilities during the Iran-Iraq war which killed over a million Iranians
5. USS Vincennes shooting down Iran Air Flight 655 with many civilian fatalities
6.U.S. Support for anti-Iranian terrorist organisations (i.e. the MKO);
7. Economic damage caused by U.S. sanctions and political pressure; U.S. UAV overflights over Iran violating Iranian airspace since 2003.
When you call Ahmadinejad a nutcase for what he%26#039;s said, what do you call Bush for his war crimes?
To those who are upset with American hostages taken for 444 days:
1. Firstly, It%26#039;s related to so many years ago and it%26#039;s almost a part of history, and don%26#039;t forget that when there%26#039;s a revolution, there%26#039;d be chaos and people may do things that they should not, moreover they%26#039;re all alive and healthy. Aren%26#039;t they?
2.The U.S has arrested Iranian diplomats in Iraq and had tortured the one who was freed. Now you decide who has the right to be upset with whom. How do you believe in their lies about politics when they hide both the most and the least important things from you considering the fact that politics is the world of lies in its nature?!!!
If you like to insist on your theory of attacking Israel, I%26#039;ll tell you our logical theory: %26quot;The moment that Iran attacks Israel, Iran will be wiped off the face of the earth by the U.S and its allies and Iran is far more logical than doing such a stupid thing%26quot; So, forget about it.I%26#039;m quite sure you know that all the events and lies in the world are a part of a pre-planned scenario by major world-powers (Iran as an important country has always been a part of their plans)And the first step is to brainwash people.They excactly know what will happen even 50 years later! I think Iraq is such a good example.Attacking it with the excuse of removing Saddam while they%26#039;d put Saddam there themselves and had supported him for years! They said they had W.M.Ds and you believed them.Now they say Iran (a member of N.P.T) has nukes / is developing nukes and you believe them wilhe the nuclear agency hasn%26#039;t found any sign of illegal activities.Time to wake up!
Isn%26#039;t it better for both countries to forget past conflicts and to have peaceful relations? Our two gov%26#039;ts are like 10 year old children playing a stupid, harsh, rhetorical game. They don%26#039;t care about hurting people%26#039;s feelings. They just try to make our two peoples enemies to achieve their own goals. We, as the people of these countries, MUST NOT allow these conflics into our hearts. Now, what do you think? I can%26#039;t wait to see both nations in peace. It%26#039;d be marvelous!
Did you find my article informative? : )
Thanks for your time
Reply:I am actualy employed by an isralie jew. He has nothing against anyone except palistinians. And he aknowleged that the reason for that is because of the localised fighting for many years.
I am going to visit Isreal in the fall and he has told me many times that it is nothing like the media reports. It is not that bad in Israel.
I also spent time in the Army, And have seen conflict, my father recorded news reports while i was in the service, and the reports was NOTHING like what was reported.
Our media is Paid. The BUSH Admin has been caught 2 seperate times to the tune of 2.2million bucks for fake news releases.
Politicians buy the news for political gain.
If you the people have any sense at all, answer this question.
Why would you spend 30 to 80 million dollars to run for president when the pay in only 1.6 million per term????
We either have the dumbest politicians on earth or they are corrupt!
WAKE UP AMERICA!
Reply:I made it to
%26quot;I believe that if you spend 10 minutes reading this essay,%26quot;
Sorry.
Reply:I think you are a soft-headed sap. Ask Sudan, Lebanon, Somilia, Afganistan, and Israel what they think of Iran. I%26#039;m sure they want to see a smouldering hole where Iran used to be.
Reply:Thank you for your words of sanity and education.
Sadly I think there are many Americans out there who will not read it and still think of Iran as this medieval dangerous behemoth out to kill them, because that%26#039;s what George Bush and Fox %26quot;News%26quot; tells them.
Reply:You might be surprised to know that many people have Iranian friends and already know much of which you write. The problem is not the Iranian people nor their culture. It is their crazy government and those idiotic mullahs that we have a problem with. Get rid of those nuts. And Cardinal Fang is wrong, Fox News also says that the Iranian people are okay, that it is the Iranian government that is bad
Reply:Although you make a lot of valid points can you see that you are in the same situation you claim Americans are in with believing and falling for Iranian propaganda. I think your essay was a noble effort to help with the opinions and ideas of your country and while I can%26#039;t agree with the political forum of your letter, I do appreciate your trying.
1. Cultural and general info
2. Political info.
Note: I%26#039;ve explained everything.Any answers before reading the whole thing will prove to be wrong.Specially the political part.I%26#039;ve provided evidence for whatever I say.It%26#039;s just the way it is.
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Part 1: Cultural and general info
Hi. I%26#039;m a 19 year old Iranian who has spent his life in Iran.I study English.When I chat with people from other countries, I am shocked to see how totally wrong their ideas are about Iran. I wrote this article in an attempt to help correct those ideas.
The first thing the West accuses our government of is that we don%26#039;t allow personal freedoms. Actually, Iranians disobey laws they don%26#039;t like as much as anyone.There are only a few restrictions.It%26#039;s cool over here. People here do whatever they wish to! Many strict rules in other countries don%26#039;t even exist in Iran. Also, you should understand that what may seem so normal to you, may be a nightmare for us and vise versa.Some of Iran%26#039;s laws are based on OUR culture. You look at our country from %26quot;your own point of view%26quot;! In Iran most houses have a sattelite dish. Sattelite television has a serious influence on our people, and Iranians wear very fashionable clothing. Maybe it is a kind of imitation, but we still have our own unique Iranian style. A visitor might wonder if this is a country or a fantasy pageant of beauty queens! Make-up and fashionable clothing are everywhere.I ignore a few fuddy-duddies though!
In my view, everything is great, if you ignore unemployment, drugs, inflation and air pollution. Also, you can%26#039;t compare Iran today with the Iran you remember. The Shah and the Iatollah Khomini are both some 30 years in the past! 70% of Iran%26#039;s population is a new generation (Under age 30) without the biases of the past and we%26#039;ve transformed everything.
Ever heard Iranian girls are terrific?I%26#039;ve collected some photos showing Iranian girls! Look! Poeple are like this!
http://www.salijoon.ir/bazigar/hedye%20t...
http://www.30nema.com/images/gallery/30n...
http://i10.tinypic.com/4clk3us.jpg
http://tinypic.com/2d0nfao.jpg Is that enough?!
Some people think women don%26#039;t have any rights in Iran. But in my view, women are overrunning the place. They%26#039;re very respectful, and they%26#039;ve been the winners in so many cases: Most of them get into the best universities because they%26#039;re very smart. And they get the best jobs because of their high university degrees. They%26#039;ve got Islamic rights, and that has in some cases made it difficult for men to marry them, because husbands are supposed to buy them expensive things and treat them very well, otherwise women have the right to ask a great amount of money (called Mehr) according to the law, which most husbands cannot afford, so men will be imprisoned.The only thing that women are not allowed to do in Iran is getting into public football stadiums and that%26#039;s because such places are full of cheeky guys. They do anything from taking part in rallies to singing pop songs.Anything! I%26#039;ve put a sample here.
Another funny thing: Your footage about stoning the women who have committed adultery. Have you ever asked yourselves how many years ago that footage related to? But in one case the thing that had happened was incest not adultery. Most of those footages relate to the early days just after Iran%26#039;s revolution! Otherwise you%26#039;d get new footages at least once a month!What exactly makes you think women are treated differently?The way they are treated in Saudi Arabia? Try to think of the racism in your country too.I found a BOOK of the U.S problems and it got me dizzy! Iran has its own problems too. Each country has its own problems.
Iran, Iraq and Afghanistan are --------- SEPERATE COUNTRIES! --------- Even within Iran, 60% of us are Persian and 30% are Turkish! Iran is a normal country like any other in the world. The Media are very good at creating really scary stuff: %26quot;IRAN BEHIND THE CLOSED DOORS!!!%26quot; %26quot;IRAN UNDERCOVER!!!%26quot; Some of that garbage would be enough to scare ME away! But in truth, Iranians are far more open-minded than you have been led to believe.
There are lots of Iranians today who are geniuses and scientists, and are all under age 25. For instance a 17 year old boy has invented 72 amazing inventions. Every year a special scientific compeition is held here and students assemble to show off hundreds of inventions. Iranian students and sportsmen win gold and silver medals in different competitions in the world all the time, in robotics, biology, maths, physics, sports, anything! Why don%26#039;t the Media talk about them? Please don%26#039;t summarize our nation and culture with the single word %26quot;nuclear%26quot;. Although we%26#039;re proud of this achievement because we believe that having nuclear energy means that a country is developed.
A few months ago Iran uncovered the most effective anti-H.I.V medicine. I searched for news of that on the internet, but there was no single sign of it.Now, I found it among the English news: %26quot;The medicine is produced from herbs using nano technology%26quot; The link to read about it is: http://www.payvand.com/news/07/feb/1032....
The Media are unjust. They never talk about facts!
Some interesting facts:
Iran is a pioneer in medicine and genetics, and Iranian surgeons have found lots of new methods for treating spinal defects, and many diseases (mainly the treatment for different types of cancer) and the best brain and heart surgeons are Iranian.The pioneer in heart transplants and artificiall hearts and so on and so! (I%26#039;ve put two websites below) The head of the Mars Mission in NASA is Iranian. One of the best designers of sports cars working in Germany is Iranian. Some of the best 3D animators are Iranian. Iran is one of the best countries in counter-engineering. Holds the second place in building dams and in loads of other things! It%26#039;s one of the top countries in bio-technology and nano-technology. The 4th highest tower in the world (Milad tower) is in Tehran (visit it at this link from wikipedia: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Milad... ). 51 of the top 100 universities in the Mid-East are in Iran, and they%26#039;re among the top universities of the world as well. The champion weight-lifter, a woman the nobel peace prize are Iranian. The 6th top movie director in the world is Iranian.(Abbas Kiarostami) http://arts.guardian.co.uk/fridayreview/...
These are just small samples.If the media told you about Iran%26#039;s achievemens everyday and didn%26#039;t hide them, your news would be full of Iranian news!Iranian girls are famous for being terrific. We have Persian rugs and Persian literature, many Persian poets, artists and scientists that are world famous. Iranian culture is now westernized and only a little of the ancient culture has survived. According to statistics Tehran is the cheapest capital city in the world (one Dollar =about 950 Tomans) There are many other things. How many pages would you need to describe a country? Iran has nearly all the industries and technologies found in %26#039;developed%26#039; countries. Oh, and we have four seasons! We get a lot of snow and there are skating rinks! lol The list is endless.
I%26#039;m gonna introduce Iran%26#039;s international news website to you (Press TV) which was established recently. It%26#039;s fully in English. In the %26quot;Sic / Tech%26quot; section you%26#039;ll always see Iran%26#039;s discoveries. The address is: http://www.presstv.ir/news.aspx Press TV news: Iranian scientists have registered more than 4800 inventions during the last Iranian calendar year of 1385 (April 21 2006-April 20, 2007). 4800 inventions in just one year!
The list of highly-respected Iranian scientists and engineers in the world: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Modern_Iran...
The list of notable Iranian figures and pioneers: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Contemporar...
An extract: Iranian medical community is a significant part of medical community in US and Europe
Enough evidence?
Some people think Iran is a desert! Well, it is, if you consider California a desert. We share the same latitude. Iran is a modern country with breathtakingly beautiful nature and lots of historic places to visit. Please take a look at the following links to see if Iran looks like what you think or not! This is a photo of Tehran (Awesome, Isn%26#039;t it?): http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/co...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tehran
If you like you can visit these too, hundreds of pretty photos from the cities, nature and historic places:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Hills...
http://www.pbase.com/k_amj/throughout_ir...
http://www.pbase.com/k_amj/throughout_ir...
http://www.pbase.com/k_amj/throughout_ir...
http://www.bigsoccer.com:80/forum/showth...
http://www.bigsoccer.com/forum/showthrea...
http://www.bigsoccer.com/forum/showthrea...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iran
Some people think music is forbidden in Iran. %26quot;Music of Iran and Iranian musicians have received countless awards in the course of history. Every year from 1977 to 2007.Evidence? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Music_of_Ir...
I send Iranian music to my American and Canadian chat friends and they all say they%26#039;re some of the best songs they%26#039;ve ever heard.
Here%26#039;s a sample of the latest hits from two official Iranian music websites.You can just right click on the links below and choose %26quot;Save Target As%26quot; to download them. Iranian music is just modern pop and the best sort of it.
1.(You know this: 2007) http://download.bia2music.com/Music/Iran...
2.(Hold my hand: 2007) http://www.sarzaminmp3.com/Sarzaminmusic...
3.(The wetness of your eyes: 2006) http://download.bia2music.com/Music/Iran...
4.(I just want you: 2003) http://download.bia2music.com/Music/Iran...
5.(The rain: 2007) http://download.bia2music.com/Music/Iran...
6.(The window: 2005) http://www.sarzamin.org/Sarzaminmusic/Pe...
7.(Keep me in your memory: 2005) http://www.sarzamin.org/Sarzaminmusic/Pe...
8.(Farangis %26quot;A female name%26quot; 2007) http://download.bia2music.com/Music/Iran...
9.(The distance: 2007) http://www.sarzaminsong.com/Sarzaminmusi...
10.(Sunrise: 2007) http://www.sarzaminsong.com/Sarzaminmusi...
11.(Stop world:2006) http://www.sarzaminmusic.com/Sarzaminmus...
12.(You can%26#039;t: 2007) http://www.sarzaminmp3.com/Sarzaminmusic...
And so on and on!
It%26#039;s now 2007 and most people still think we are uneducated people living in deserts and riding camels!
Part 2: Political info.
Let%26#039;s clarify some political issues as well: Some of the Americans think that president Ahmadinejad hates the U.S and Israel and wants to nuke them!! The Media are good at putting lying comments out there. I really don%26#039;t get the point why our politicians defame themselves by talking about things that have got nothing to do with us. The thing is that they occasionally make some statements that the media would make them controversial topics to interest its viewers! For example they pick up some specific phrases of a long speech (without refering to the main points and reasons for that speech) and put so many bad comments on that.
First of all, Iranians don%26#039;t hate anyone.We hate neither Jews nor Americans. How would our guys dream of America, want to be like them as much as possible, and hate them at the same time?! The truth us that Iranians are the only people in the Mid-East that are pro-American! Being agaisnt the U.S policies is a different story! We live basically the same lives.Don%26#039;t look at the way women dress in public places! You%26#039;ve got to see them in other places!I%26#039;ve got to say that for Iran, Israel is not equal with Jews! Israel is a gov%26#039;t. Jews are faithful people! 20,000 Jews and lots of Christians live here equally with Iranians and two of Iran%26#039;s parliment members are Jews. Who says we want to force others to convert to Islam? Have you ever found a Moslem knocking at your door asking you to do so?
Christians and Jews are both God-believers and respectful to us.
I wonder who Iran is really a threat to. Is it logical to say someone%26#039;s guilty because we THINK / PREDICT that he%26#039;s going to do something wrong? And they repeat the same %26quot;nuclear weapons%26quot; tosh over and over and brainwash people! Correction! It%26#039;s %26quot;nuclear energy%26quot;. Besides, how many %26quot;nuclear weapons%26quot; do they have themselves? Hundreds of thousands? Has Iran ever attacked any countries? No. Has it developed any nukes? No! That%26#039;s what nuclear agency says. Only Iran%26#039;s opponents are pulling Iran%26#039;s leg and what they say is just based on political conflicts. What we%26#039;re doing is legal. Iran is a peaceful country. Why? It%26#039;s the regional super-power and if she wanted, she could easily invade the countries in our neibourhood just like what Saddam did to our country, but as you see Iran has peaceful relations with all of them.
Some people say he said: Israel should be wiped off the map! the thing is that he exactly said: %26quot;The Imam %26quot;Khomeyni%26quot; said this regime occupying Jerusalem must vanish from the page of time.%26quot;They%26#039;ve only told you this phrase not the whole thing and it%26#039;s mistranslated intentionally. Besides, they%26#039;ve been saying such things for a long time.It%26#039;s their habit.Here%26#039;s an article.%26quot;Wiped off the map....The roumor of the century.Read how the media and the U.S newspapers have twisted it into a controvertioal topic. http://www.antiwar.com/orig/norouzi.php?... Now you see that you were wrong.Iran has always defended itself, but it%26#039;s not an offensive country.
Some say he%26#039;s said: %26quot;The Holocaust is a myth!%26quot; Again, this is a single phrase taken from a long speech and there are totally logical reasons for saying so. If 6,000,000 Jews were killed, that%26#039;s terrible, but 300,000 Shiite Moslems killed by Saddam aren%26#039;t important at all? Over 650,000 Iraqi people are killed and that%26#039;s not important?! When Fox News simply says that America and Israel are capable of destroying and killing Iran%26#039;s population of 69,000,000 within two weeks, it%26#039;s OK and no one says they%26#039;re threatening other countries to nuke them (I saw this with my own eyes on the Fox News website) Millions of people killed in Afghanistan, Hiroshima %26amp; Nagasaki and the Vietnam war are not considered human beings at all! Now I think you%26#039;d get the point why he%26#039;s IRONICALLY said it%26#039;s a myth. Moreover, don%26#039;t you believe in freedom of speech/mind? Well, if you%26#039;d like to blame someone for that, hope in a time-machine and sue Hitler! lol
Some countries are using Iran as a scapegoat to put the blame (for their own faults) on.
This part is just for Americans:
Those of you who say why Iran says %26quot;Death to America%26quot;:
1. %26#039;America%26#039; to us means the U.S govt, not the people. How do you expect Iranians to mean %26quot;American people%26quot; when our media admires Americans for marching and holding up %26quot;no war%26quot; placards?! Also, I see a lot of %26quot;Let%26#039;s nuke Iran%26quot;s on YA.Isn%26#039;t that a kind of %26quot;Death to Iran%26quot;?
2. The new generation don%26#039;t say such things and if some of them occasionally march in the streets that%26#039;s because some of the stupid guys enjoy making noise and they mainly go out there to meet their girlfriends/boyfriends! Strange. Isn%26#039;t it?
3. Such mottos are not just said in Iran and as you know whatever you hear is a response to the U.S govt%26#039;s terrible actions which has made life for many people hell (You wouldn%26#039;t deny that attacking countries is a mistake. Would you?)
4. U.S. companies assistance in developing Iraq%26#039;s chemical weapons facilities during the Iran-Iraq war which killed over a million Iranians
5. USS Vincennes shooting down Iran Air Flight 655 with many civilian fatalities
6.U.S. Support for anti-Iranian terrorist organisations (i.e. the MKO);
7. Economic damage caused by U.S. sanctions and political pressure; U.S. UAV overflights over Iran violating Iranian airspace since 2003.
When you call Ahmadinejad a nutcase for what he%26#039;s said, what do you call Bush for his war crimes?
To those who are upset with American hostages taken for 444 days:
1. Firstly, It%26#039;s related to so many years ago and it%26#039;s almost a part of history, and don%26#039;t forget that when there%26#039;s a revolution, there%26#039;d be chaos and people may do things that they should not, moreover they%26#039;re all alive and healthy. Aren%26#039;t they?
2.The U.S has arrested Iranian diplomats in Iraq and had tortured the one who was freed. Now you decide who has the right to be upset with whom. How do you believe in their lies about politics when they hide both the most and the least important things from you considering the fact that politics is the world of lies in its nature?!!!
If you like to insist on your theory of attacking Israel, I%26#039;ll tell you our logical theory: %26quot;The moment that Iran attacks Israel, Iran will be wiped off the face of the earth by the U.S and its allies and Iran is far more logical than doing such a stupid thing%26quot; So, forget about it.I%26#039;m quite sure you know that all the events and lies in the world are a part of a pre-planned scenario by major world-powers (Iran as an important country has always been a part of their plans)And the first step is to brainwash people.They excactly know what will happen even 50 years later! I think Iraq is such a good example.Attacking it with the excuse of removing Saddam while they%26#039;d put Saddam there themselves and had supported him for years! They said they had W.M.Ds and you believed them.Now they say Iran (a member of N.P.T) has nukes / is developing nukes and you believe them wilhe the nuclear agency hasn%26#039;t found any sign of illegal activities.Time to wake up!
Isn%26#039;t it better for both countries to forget past conflicts and to have peaceful relations? Our two gov%26#039;ts are like 10 year old children playing a stupid, harsh, rhetorical game. They don%26#039;t care about hurting people%26#039;s feelings. They just try to make our two peoples enemies to achieve their own goals. We, as the people of these countries, MUST NOT allow these conflics into our hearts. Now, what do you think? I can%26#039;t wait to see both nations in peace. It%26#039;d be marvelous!
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Thanks for your time
Reply:I am actualy employed by an isralie jew. He has nothing against anyone except palistinians. And he aknowleged that the reason for that is because of the localised fighting for many years.
I am going to visit Isreal in the fall and he has told me many times that it is nothing like the media reports. It is not that bad in Israel.
I also spent time in the Army, And have seen conflict, my father recorded news reports while i was in the service, and the reports was NOTHING like what was reported.
Our media is Paid. The BUSH Admin has been caught 2 seperate times to the tune of 2.2million bucks for fake news releases.
Politicians buy the news for political gain.
If you the people have any sense at all, answer this question.
Why would you spend 30 to 80 million dollars to run for president when the pay in only 1.6 million per term????
We either have the dumbest politicians on earth or they are corrupt!
WAKE UP AMERICA!
Reply:I made it to
%26quot;I believe that if you spend 10 minutes reading this essay,%26quot;
Sorry.
Reply:I think you are a soft-headed sap. Ask Sudan, Lebanon, Somilia, Afganistan, and Israel what they think of Iran. I%26#039;m sure they want to see a smouldering hole where Iran used to be.
Reply:Thank you for your words of sanity and education.
Sadly I think there are many Americans out there who will not read it and still think of Iran as this medieval dangerous behemoth out to kill them, because that%26#039;s what George Bush and Fox %26quot;News%26quot; tells them.
Reply:You might be surprised to know that many people have Iranian friends and already know much of which you write. The problem is not the Iranian people nor their culture. It is their crazy government and those idiotic mullahs that we have a problem with. Get rid of those nuts. And Cardinal Fang is wrong, Fox News also says that the Iranian people are okay, that it is the Iranian government that is bad
Reply:Although you make a lot of valid points can you see that you are in the same situation you claim Americans are in with believing and falling for Iranian propaganda. I think your essay was a noble effort to help with the opinions and ideas of your country and while I can%26#039;t agree with the political forum of your letter, I do appreciate your trying.
7 Things You Didn't Know About PETA (Do you still support them)?
341>1) PETA president and co-founder Ingrid Newkirk has described her group’s overall goal as “total animal liberation.” This means no meat, no milk, no zoos, no circuses, no wool, no leather, no hunting, no fishing, and no pets (not even seeing-eye dogs). PETA is also against all medical research that requires the use of animals.
2) Despite its constant moralizing about the “unethical” treatment of animals by restaurant owners, grocers, farmers, scientists, anglers, and countless other Americans, PETA has killed over 14,400 dogs and cats at its Norfolk, Virginia headquarters. During 2005, PETA put to death over 90 percent of the animals it collected from members of the public.
3) PETA has given tens of thousands of dollars to convicted arsonists and other violent criminals. This includes a 2001 donation of $1,500 to the North American Earth Liberation Front (ELF), an FBI-certified “domestic terrorist” group responsible for dozens of firebombs and death threats. During the 1990s, PETA paid $70,200 to an Animal Liberation Front (ALF) activist convicted of burning down a Michigan State University research laboratory. In his sentencing recommendation, a federal prosecutor implicated PETA president Ingrid Newkirk in that crime. And PETA vegetarian campaign coordinator Bruce Friedrich told an animal rights convention in 2001 that “blowing stuff up and smashing windows” is “a great way to bring about animal liberation.”
4) PETA activists regularly target children as young as six years old with anti-meat and anti-milk propaganda, often waiting outside their schools to intercept them as they walk to and from class-without notifying parents. One piece of kid-targeted PETA literature tells small children: “Your Mommy Kills Animals!” PETA brags that its messages reach over 2 million children every year, including thousands reached by e-mail without the permission of their parents. One PETA vice president told the Fox News Channel’s audience: “Our campaigns are always geared towards children, and they always will be.”
5) PETA has used a related organization, the PETA Foundation, to fund the misnamed Physicians Committee for Responsible Medicine (PCRM), a deceptive animal rights group that promotes itself as an unbiased source of medical and nutritional information. PCRM%26#039;s president also serves as president of the PETA Foundation.
6) PETA runs campaigns seemingly calculated to offend religious believers. One entire PETA website is devoted to the claim-despite ample evidence to the contrary-that Jesus Christ was a vegetarian. PETA holds protests at houses of worship, even suing one church that tried to protect its members from Sunday-morning harassment. Its billboards taunt Christians with the message that hogs “died for their sins.” PETA insists, contrary to centuries of rabbinical teaching, that the Jewish ritual of kosher slaughter shouldn%26#039;t be allowed. And its infamous “Holocaust on Your Plate” campaign crassly compares the Jewish victims of Nazi genocide with farm animals.
7) PETA has repeatedly attacked research foundations like the March of Dimes, the Pediatric AIDS Foundation, and the American Cancer Society, because they support animal-based research that might uncover cures for birth defects and life-threatening diseases. PETA president Ingrid Newkirk has said that “even if animal research resulted in a cure for AIDS, we would be against it.”
Reply:PETA is really crazy. They believe that they can justify anything because their cause is so %26quot;just%26quot;. My kids are vegans because of their beliefs in animal rights but they hate PETA.
Animal research has resulted in better health care for not only humans but animals! Cat AIDS was discovered before human AIDS. Of course, lab animals should have humane care and, so, too, should animals raised for human consumption.
Reply:Even god told adam to kill the sheep on the mountain and wear its hide for clothing, all through out the bible man ate of the fatted calf cause the fathers son who was lost came back and they killed the fatted calf to celebrate, ect. The bible also states man may eat of certain types of animals. Report It
Reply:yes, i still support them :) Report It
Reply:ON THEIR SITE THEY DID NOT SAY 1 DAMN THING ABOUT THEIR SHELTERS. WHETHER THEY KILL THOSE ANIMALS OR NOT...THEY R STILL SPREADING THE TRUTH ABOUT WHAT YOU EAT, FUR FARMS,FACTORY FARMING, PUPPY MILLS, ECT.= THEY ARE SAVING AN EXTREME AMOUNT OF ANIMALS COMPARED TO TRE AMOUNT THEY KILL Report It
Reply:I found exactly the same things when I researched PETA a couple years ago. Report It
Reply:Mo Mosh mentioned that they compare killing animals for food to the Holocaust. It bugs me so much how this huge group cares about animals, but not as many are standing up to help people. I value a person%26#039;s life over an animals any day. Report It
Reply:I didn%26#039;t support them in the first place, but your question did provide some interesting reading :)
Reply:I never have supported them; they are hopeless nitwits. Indeed, I denounce them at every opportunity.
Reply:I never supported them anyway, so this is just the icing on the cake. Any person that is against a natural way of life (that is a higher member of the food chain making lower members food) has no intelligence what-so-ever.
Also any group that has to make sick and twisted pictures of random bloody cow heads just to get people to side with them, never had much of an argument.
Reply:I never have been a PETA %26quot; supporter %26quot;, but I wasn%26#039;t aware of just how radical they were. Thanks for the infor. They %26quot;are%26quot; fanatics.
Reply:I like pita... a little chicken or lamb, lettuce, tomato, and some sour cream...oh you said PETA.
It%26#039;s a shame because there are needs for people to advocate for animals, but because these people have lost their grip on reality they marginalize themselves to the point where noone wants to listen to them.
Reply:You%26#039;re preaching to the choir about PeTA. They make ligitimate animal rescuers like myself look bad, and none of the good people I know who love animals are associated with them.
Reply:I%26#039;ve never supported PETA. They%26#039;re all a bunch of crazies.
How do you not eat meat? It%26#039;s a natural source of protein. Does PETA go out and protest to the lions that eat zebras for dinner?
Plus, pets are necessary for a healthy, happy life. :)
Reply:Never supported Peta. I figure...if people really wanted to save the animals why don%26#039;t they stop protesting...like put down the signs for a second....and go help out those animal shelters? I liked peta for a while (like a month) and then I never could find out what they were doing to help the SPCA or any other shelter. The only good thing that has come from peta is the hurricane Katrina relief.
Reply:I am a vegetarian because I believe that we shouldn%26#039;t be killing animals simply to eat them, and also because I have pet chickens and can%26#039;t see how I can claim to love them but then also eat the same species. I also have massive objections to factory farming. However, I don%26#039;t support PETA or other radical animal rights movements. Instead I choose to support animal welfare charities such as the RSPCA, Dogs Trust and so on.
Reply:I support my local shelters and NorthShore Animal League.(They are pretty much a pet Red Cross)
I am just not gullible enough to support HSUS or PETA
Reply:1)Obviously that is their goal,they are an animal rights group.
2)Too bad CCF failed to mention the 26 billion animals killed for meat,dairy, adn eggs.And the 1 million dogs,monkeys,cats,tested on and killed each year.Plus another 19 million rats and mice.
3)Bruce Friedrich told an animal rights convention in 2001 that “blowing stuff up and smashing windows” is “a great way to bring about animal liberation.”
-One person does not represent an entire group.If you knew about factory farming,vivisection,animals killed alive for fur,etc
I%26#039;m sure you would feel the same way.It makes me mad to see animals killed and abused needlessly.
4)Do you know where kids get their nutritional guides from?Meat and dairy industry.Many of our parents wer raised on the four food groups,there were origanally 12.The USDA made the change after receiving heavy pressure from the meat and dairy industry.kids today still think they need to drink cows milk,they think milk builds strong bones(it doesn%26#039;t,the calcium in milk is unusable,it has to have a ratio of 1 to 1 magnesium and calcium,and calcium is absorbed better from foods with low phosphorus,milk is NOT a low pH,it is a high,osteoperosis is caused by excess protein,not lack of calcium,people who drink milk do not have stronger bones),recently the milk industry suggested that people who drink milk are leaner,with no research to support it.In a weight loss guide,they said include ice cream with fruit.You%26#039;re kidding me right?Eat ice cream to lose weight?I%26#039;m sure you can find a Got milk? at each and every public school on the US,and they say good cheese comes from happy cows,yet they only show cows grazing in grass,when in reality they are kept in stalls all day,given hormones,milked 3 times a day,have their calves taken away from them to be raised for veal.
5)CCF claims that PCRM %26quot;perverts%26quot; science,yet PCRM%26#039;s studies are all peer reviewed.PCRM has a four-star rating from Charity Navigator.PCRM exposed experiments in which short, healthy children were to be injected with genetically engineered growth hormone in an attempt to make them taller. PCRM also exposed the practice of using massive estrogen doses to suppress height in tall adolescent girls. In addition, PCRM vigorously promotes alternatives to the use of animals in medical education and research through a variety of innovative programs.
CCF mistakenly charges that the American Medical Association (AMA) has “censured” PCRM: This is patently untrue. PCRM did have disagreements with the AMA in the early 1990s (the AMA supported animal testing, while PCRM promotes alternatives; PCRM favors vegetarian diets, while the AMA was initially skeptical), but the AMA’s censure process was never applied to PCRM. In fact, PCRM president Neal Barnard, M.D., is a lifetime AMA member. In February 2004, the AMA released a statement saying that its previous criticisms of PCRM’s stance on vegetarianism do not represent current AMA opinion or policy.In 2006, the AMA rescinded a 1990 criticism of PCRM’s work for alternatives to animal research. There is no longer any acrimony between the groups. Many PCRM members are also AMA members.
6)You can go here and see information that I got from a website that showed the possibility of Jesus being a vegetarian(http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index;... There are a group of christians who promote vegetarianism(seventh-day adventists, http://www.all-creatures.org/cva/cvainne...
Isaac Bashevis Singer(a jew who survived the holocaust).Wrote in his book,Enemies:A love Story %26quot;...in their behavior towards animals,all men are Nazi%26#039;s%26quot; That was PETA%26#039;s basis for that campaign.Singer%26#039;s Grandson supported PETA%26#039;s efforts,along with others.PETA is against Kosher slaughter because the animal has to be turned around upside and have it%26#039;s throat slit.It cannot be given any sedatives to reduce the pain.That is why Peta is against it.Watch (If this is Kosher)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HXS_Ekd_r...
7) PETA has spoke against those foundations,but they promote alternatives.They do not shun research without promoting an alternative. Why they are against those studies.The American Heart Association (AHA) funds countless studies in which animals have their hearts damaged, have their arteries sewn shut, and are exposed to noxious substances like cigarette smoke. In one AHA-funded study, tubes and wires were implanted into dogs’ hearts in order to speed up their heartbeats for three weeks until the dogs suffered heart failure. Another group of AHA-funded experimenters killed baboons by injecting them with lethal doses of E. coli.
Experimenters funded by the March of Dimes sewed newborn kittens’ eyes shut for a year and then killed them; others chemically blinded 4-to-12-week-old kittens by injecting drugs into their brains for four straight weeks, killing many of the cats in the process.The March of Dimes has funded these “blinding” studies for decades in order to show that depriving cats of normal vision alters the development of their brains—which is already a well-established scientific fact. The March of Dimes has also given millions of dollars to experimenters who have administered nicotine, cocaine, and alcohol to pregnant animals, even though we already know from human clinical experience that these substances can harm developing babies.
Shriners Burns Institute has conducted burn experiments on live mice, rats, guinea pigs, pigs, dogs, and sheep for years. Experimenters there burned pigs over 40 percent of their bodies and then induced sepsis by pumping E. coli into their internal organs in order to test how treating the infection helps burn victims to recover, even though burn victims are already routinely given antibiotics to fight infections.
At Boys Town National Research Hospital, experimenters starved cats for months, implanted tubes and wires in their throats, cemented metal devices into their skulls, and cut open kittens’ heads in order to sever the nerves in their brains—all in the name of curing deafness. Undercover investigators from PETA documented serious violations of federal law at Boys Town, including failure to provide veterinary care to sick animals, use of outdated drugs, and the absence of post-surgical painkillers.
(http://www.peta.org/factsheet/files/Fact...
PETA president Ingrid Newkirk has said that “even if animal research resulted in a cure for AIDS, we would be against it.”
No,she didn%26#039;t,she said %26quot;Even if animal testing resulted in a cure for AIDS,which it never would,I%26#039;d be against it morally.%26quot;
She is not alone on that statement.
%26quot;Science that fails to embrace all living beings is far more dangerous than any virus!%26quot;
Simmons, Steve-Aids Activist
%26quot;What good does it do you to test something [a vaccine] in a monkey? You find five or six years from now that it works in the monkey, and then you test it in humans and you realize that humans behave totally differently from monkeys, so you’ve wasted five years.%26quot;
Feinberg, Dr. Mark-a leading AIDS researcher
%26quot;During the last 80+ years, scientists experimenting on trillions of animals, came up with 900 ways of causing cancer in a mouse...BUT NO CURE TO HUMANS!%26quot; Brailsford, MD, J. F.
%26quot;There are only two categories of doctors and scientists who are not opposed to vivisection: Those who don’t know enough about it and those who make money from it.%26quot;
Hartinger, Werner-Chief Surgeon, W. Germany
%26quot;We have cured mice of cancer for decades--and it simply didn%26#039;t work in humans.%26quot; Klausner, Dr. Richard-of the National Institute of Cancer
%26quot;Giving cancer to laboratory animals has not and will not help us to understand the disease or to treat those persons suffering from it.%26quot; Sabin, Albert, MD-A physician and microbiologist
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Please do some research on your own.Educate yourself about the industries PETA opposses.If you step back and compare the two,you will definetly know PETA is by far the lesser of the two evils.Here is some info that may interest you...
Why is CCF attacking PETA?
http://consumerdeception.com/
USDA/Meat %26amp; Dairy industries
-France has a fraction of the animals that we do for food,yet they have tested more animals in a week than we have in an entire decade.
-The USDA tests lees than 1% of animals killed for food
-The USDA makes it illegal for slaughterhouses to conduct tests to reassure customers that their beef is safe,slaughterhouses were losing money after US beef was banned from Japan when they found cows with mad cow diease,slaughterhouses wanted to be allowed to test to reassure Japan that their beef was safe,USDA made it illegal to do so
-Mad cow diease is caused by feeding other animals to cows,a practice that was supposedly banned in 1997
-The USDA tested a cow positive for mad cow disease,they did nothing the next day,didn%26#039;t shut down the slaughterhouse,didn%26#039;t do any recalls,nothing.
-The government said it cannot require labeling of cloned meats.Why?Because many would not buy it.That shows you they don%26#039;t want to protect consumer but rather the inustries(they did the same with genetically modified foods in 1995,they wouldn%26#039;t label it because no one would buy it)
-The USDA Food Guide Pyramid available through 2005 recommended that meat, poultry, fish, and eggs comprise 14% of the diet, yet 52% of USDA food promotion resources were allocated to these foods. The Pyramid said 33% of the diet should come from fruits and vegetables — which received only 5% of the USDA promotion budget.
for more: http://www.newstarget.com/the_USDA.html
http://www.commondreams.org/views04/0102...
This documentary really exposes the industries that PETA opposes,please watch with an open mind and heart
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GhxKnys7R...
PETA speech-Why we do what we do
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xdmsWF607...
Reply:They compare the killing of animals for food to the mass slaughter of human beings in the Holocaust.
That%26#039;s enough for me to judge this (wacked-out) group.
2) Despite its constant moralizing about the “unethical” treatment of animals by restaurant owners, grocers, farmers, scientists, anglers, and countless other Americans, PETA has killed over 14,400 dogs and cats at its Norfolk, Virginia headquarters. During 2005, PETA put to death over 90 percent of the animals it collected from members of the public.
3) PETA has given tens of thousands of dollars to convicted arsonists and other violent criminals. This includes a 2001 donation of $1,500 to the North American Earth Liberation Front (ELF), an FBI-certified “domestic terrorist” group responsible for dozens of firebombs and death threats. During the 1990s, PETA paid $70,200 to an Animal Liberation Front (ALF) activist convicted of burning down a Michigan State University research laboratory. In his sentencing recommendation, a federal prosecutor implicated PETA president Ingrid Newkirk in that crime. And PETA vegetarian campaign coordinator Bruce Friedrich told an animal rights convention in 2001 that “blowing stuff up and smashing windows” is “a great way to bring about animal liberation.”
4) PETA activists regularly target children as young as six years old with anti-meat and anti-milk propaganda, often waiting outside their schools to intercept them as they walk to and from class-without notifying parents. One piece of kid-targeted PETA literature tells small children: “Your Mommy Kills Animals!” PETA brags that its messages reach over 2 million children every year, including thousands reached by e-mail without the permission of their parents. One PETA vice president told the Fox News Channel’s audience: “Our campaigns are always geared towards children, and they always will be.”
5) PETA has used a related organization, the PETA Foundation, to fund the misnamed Physicians Committee for Responsible Medicine (PCRM), a deceptive animal rights group that promotes itself as an unbiased source of medical and nutritional information. PCRM%26#039;s president also serves as president of the PETA Foundation.
6) PETA runs campaigns seemingly calculated to offend religious believers. One entire PETA website is devoted to the claim-despite ample evidence to the contrary-that Jesus Christ was a vegetarian. PETA holds protests at houses of worship, even suing one church that tried to protect its members from Sunday-morning harassment. Its billboards taunt Christians with the message that hogs “died for their sins.” PETA insists, contrary to centuries of rabbinical teaching, that the Jewish ritual of kosher slaughter shouldn%26#039;t be allowed. And its infamous “Holocaust on Your Plate” campaign crassly compares the Jewish victims of Nazi genocide with farm animals.
7) PETA has repeatedly attacked research foundations like the March of Dimes, the Pediatric AIDS Foundation, and the American Cancer Society, because they support animal-based research that might uncover cures for birth defects and life-threatening diseases. PETA president Ingrid Newkirk has said that “even if animal research resulted in a cure for AIDS, we would be against it.”
Reply:PETA is really crazy. They believe that they can justify anything because their cause is so %26quot;just%26quot;. My kids are vegans because of their beliefs in animal rights but they hate PETA.
Animal research has resulted in better health care for not only humans but animals! Cat AIDS was discovered before human AIDS. Of course, lab animals should have humane care and, so, too, should animals raised for human consumption.
Reply:Even god told adam to kill the sheep on the mountain and wear its hide for clothing, all through out the bible man ate of the fatted calf cause the fathers son who was lost came back and they killed the fatted calf to celebrate, ect. The bible also states man may eat of certain types of animals. Report It
Reply:yes, i still support them :) Report It
Reply:ON THEIR SITE THEY DID NOT SAY 1 DAMN THING ABOUT THEIR SHELTERS. WHETHER THEY KILL THOSE ANIMALS OR NOT...THEY R STILL SPREADING THE TRUTH ABOUT WHAT YOU EAT, FUR FARMS,FACTORY FARMING, PUPPY MILLS, ECT.= THEY ARE SAVING AN EXTREME AMOUNT OF ANIMALS COMPARED TO TRE AMOUNT THEY KILL Report It
Reply:I found exactly the same things when I researched PETA a couple years ago. Report It
Reply:Mo Mosh mentioned that they compare killing animals for food to the Holocaust. It bugs me so much how this huge group cares about animals, but not as many are standing up to help people. I value a person%26#039;s life over an animals any day. Report It
Reply:I didn%26#039;t support them in the first place, but your question did provide some interesting reading :)
Reply:I never have supported them; they are hopeless nitwits. Indeed, I denounce them at every opportunity.
Reply:I never supported them anyway, so this is just the icing on the cake. Any person that is against a natural way of life (that is a higher member of the food chain making lower members food) has no intelligence what-so-ever.
Also any group that has to make sick and twisted pictures of random bloody cow heads just to get people to side with them, never had much of an argument.
Reply:I never have been a PETA %26quot; supporter %26quot;, but I wasn%26#039;t aware of just how radical they were. Thanks for the infor. They %26quot;are%26quot; fanatics.
Reply:I like pita... a little chicken or lamb, lettuce, tomato, and some sour cream...oh you said PETA.
It%26#039;s a shame because there are needs for people to advocate for animals, but because these people have lost their grip on reality they marginalize themselves to the point where noone wants to listen to them.
Reply:You%26#039;re preaching to the choir about PeTA. They make ligitimate animal rescuers like myself look bad, and none of the good people I know who love animals are associated with them.
Reply:I%26#039;ve never supported PETA. They%26#039;re all a bunch of crazies.
How do you not eat meat? It%26#039;s a natural source of protein. Does PETA go out and protest to the lions that eat zebras for dinner?
Plus, pets are necessary for a healthy, happy life. :)
Reply:Never supported Peta. I figure...if people really wanted to save the animals why don%26#039;t they stop protesting...like put down the signs for a second....and go help out those animal shelters? I liked peta for a while (like a month) and then I never could find out what they were doing to help the SPCA or any other shelter. The only good thing that has come from peta is the hurricane Katrina relief.
Reply:I am a vegetarian because I believe that we shouldn%26#039;t be killing animals simply to eat them, and also because I have pet chickens and can%26#039;t see how I can claim to love them but then also eat the same species. I also have massive objections to factory farming. However, I don%26#039;t support PETA or other radical animal rights movements. Instead I choose to support animal welfare charities such as the RSPCA, Dogs Trust and so on.
Reply:I support my local shelters and NorthShore Animal League.(They are pretty much a pet Red Cross)
I am just not gullible enough to support HSUS or PETA
Reply:1)Obviously that is their goal,they are an animal rights group.
2)Too bad CCF failed to mention the 26 billion animals killed for meat,dairy, adn eggs.And the 1 million dogs,monkeys,cats,tested on and killed each year.Plus another 19 million rats and mice.
3)Bruce Friedrich told an animal rights convention in 2001 that “blowing stuff up and smashing windows” is “a great way to bring about animal liberation.”
-One person does not represent an entire group.If you knew about factory farming,vivisection,animals killed alive for fur,etc
I%26#039;m sure you would feel the same way.It makes me mad to see animals killed and abused needlessly.
4)Do you know where kids get their nutritional guides from?Meat and dairy industry.Many of our parents wer raised on the four food groups,there were origanally 12.The USDA made the change after receiving heavy pressure from the meat and dairy industry.kids today still think they need to drink cows milk,they think milk builds strong bones(it doesn%26#039;t,the calcium in milk is unusable,it has to have a ratio of 1 to 1 magnesium and calcium,and calcium is absorbed better from foods with low phosphorus,milk is NOT a low pH,it is a high,osteoperosis is caused by excess protein,not lack of calcium,people who drink milk do not have stronger bones),recently the milk industry suggested that people who drink milk are leaner,with no research to support it.In a weight loss guide,they said include ice cream with fruit.You%26#039;re kidding me right?Eat ice cream to lose weight?I%26#039;m sure you can find a Got milk? at each and every public school on the US,and they say good cheese comes from happy cows,yet they only show cows grazing in grass,when in reality they are kept in stalls all day,given hormones,milked 3 times a day,have their calves taken away from them to be raised for veal.
5)CCF claims that PCRM %26quot;perverts%26quot; science,yet PCRM%26#039;s studies are all peer reviewed.PCRM has a four-star rating from Charity Navigator.PCRM exposed experiments in which short, healthy children were to be injected with genetically engineered growth hormone in an attempt to make them taller. PCRM also exposed the practice of using massive estrogen doses to suppress height in tall adolescent girls. In addition, PCRM vigorously promotes alternatives to the use of animals in medical education and research through a variety of innovative programs.
CCF mistakenly charges that the American Medical Association (AMA) has “censured” PCRM: This is patently untrue. PCRM did have disagreements with the AMA in the early 1990s (the AMA supported animal testing, while PCRM promotes alternatives; PCRM favors vegetarian diets, while the AMA was initially skeptical), but the AMA’s censure process was never applied to PCRM. In fact, PCRM president Neal Barnard, M.D., is a lifetime AMA member. In February 2004, the AMA released a statement saying that its previous criticisms of PCRM’s stance on vegetarianism do not represent current AMA opinion or policy.In 2006, the AMA rescinded a 1990 criticism of PCRM’s work for alternatives to animal research. There is no longer any acrimony between the groups. Many PCRM members are also AMA members.
6)You can go here and see information that I got from a website that showed the possibility of Jesus being a vegetarian(http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index;... There are a group of christians who promote vegetarianism(seventh-day adventists, http://www.all-creatures.org/cva/cvainne...
Isaac Bashevis Singer(a jew who survived the holocaust).Wrote in his book,Enemies:A love Story %26quot;...in their behavior towards animals,all men are Nazi%26#039;s%26quot; That was PETA%26#039;s basis for that campaign.Singer%26#039;s Grandson supported PETA%26#039;s efforts,along with others.PETA is against Kosher slaughter because the animal has to be turned around upside and have it%26#039;s throat slit.It cannot be given any sedatives to reduce the pain.That is why Peta is against it.Watch (If this is Kosher)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HXS_Ekd_r...
7) PETA has spoke against those foundations,but they promote alternatives.They do not shun research without promoting an alternative. Why they are against those studies.The American Heart Association (AHA) funds countless studies in which animals have their hearts damaged, have their arteries sewn shut, and are exposed to noxious substances like cigarette smoke. In one AHA-funded study, tubes and wires were implanted into dogs’ hearts in order to speed up their heartbeats for three weeks until the dogs suffered heart failure. Another group of AHA-funded experimenters killed baboons by injecting them with lethal doses of E. coli.
Experimenters funded by the March of Dimes sewed newborn kittens’ eyes shut for a year and then killed them; others chemically blinded 4-to-12-week-old kittens by injecting drugs into their brains for four straight weeks, killing many of the cats in the process.The March of Dimes has funded these “blinding” studies for decades in order to show that depriving cats of normal vision alters the development of their brains—which is already a well-established scientific fact. The March of Dimes has also given millions of dollars to experimenters who have administered nicotine, cocaine, and alcohol to pregnant animals, even though we already know from human clinical experience that these substances can harm developing babies.
Shriners Burns Institute has conducted burn experiments on live mice, rats, guinea pigs, pigs, dogs, and sheep for years. Experimenters there burned pigs over 40 percent of their bodies and then induced sepsis by pumping E. coli into their internal organs in order to test how treating the infection helps burn victims to recover, even though burn victims are already routinely given antibiotics to fight infections.
At Boys Town National Research Hospital, experimenters starved cats for months, implanted tubes and wires in their throats, cemented metal devices into their skulls, and cut open kittens’ heads in order to sever the nerves in their brains—all in the name of curing deafness. Undercover investigators from PETA documented serious violations of federal law at Boys Town, including failure to provide veterinary care to sick animals, use of outdated drugs, and the absence of post-surgical painkillers.
(http://www.peta.org/factsheet/files/Fact...
PETA president Ingrid Newkirk has said that “even if animal research resulted in a cure for AIDS, we would be against it.”
No,she didn%26#039;t,she said %26quot;Even if animal testing resulted in a cure for AIDS,which it never would,I%26#039;d be against it morally.%26quot;
She is not alone on that statement.
%26quot;Science that fails to embrace all living beings is far more dangerous than any virus!%26quot;
Simmons, Steve-Aids Activist
%26quot;What good does it do you to test something [a vaccine] in a monkey? You find five or six years from now that it works in the monkey, and then you test it in humans and you realize that humans behave totally differently from monkeys, so you’ve wasted five years.%26quot;
Feinberg, Dr. Mark-a leading AIDS researcher
%26quot;During the last 80+ years, scientists experimenting on trillions of animals, came up with 900 ways of causing cancer in a mouse...BUT NO CURE TO HUMANS!%26quot; Brailsford, MD, J. F.
%26quot;There are only two categories of doctors and scientists who are not opposed to vivisection: Those who don’t know enough about it and those who make money from it.%26quot;
Hartinger, Werner-Chief Surgeon, W. Germany
%26quot;We have cured mice of cancer for decades--and it simply didn%26#039;t work in humans.%26quot; Klausner, Dr. Richard-of the National Institute of Cancer
%26quot;Giving cancer to laboratory animals has not and will not help us to understand the disease or to treat those persons suffering from it.%26quot; Sabin, Albert, MD-A physician and microbiologist
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Please do some research on your own.Educate yourself about the industries PETA opposses.If you step back and compare the two,you will definetly know PETA is by far the lesser of the two evils.Here is some info that may interest you...
Why is CCF attacking PETA?
http://consumerdeception.com/
USDA/Meat %26amp; Dairy industries
-France has a fraction of the animals that we do for food,yet they have tested more animals in a week than we have in an entire decade.
-The USDA tests lees than 1% of animals killed for food
-The USDA makes it illegal for slaughterhouses to conduct tests to reassure customers that their beef is safe,slaughterhouses were losing money after US beef was banned from Japan when they found cows with mad cow diease,slaughterhouses wanted to be allowed to test to reassure Japan that their beef was safe,USDA made it illegal to do so
-Mad cow diease is caused by feeding other animals to cows,a practice that was supposedly banned in 1997
-The USDA tested a cow positive for mad cow disease,they did nothing the next day,didn%26#039;t shut down the slaughterhouse,didn%26#039;t do any recalls,nothing.
-The government said it cannot require labeling of cloned meats.Why?Because many would not buy it.That shows you they don%26#039;t want to protect consumer but rather the inustries(they did the same with genetically modified foods in 1995,they wouldn%26#039;t label it because no one would buy it)
-The USDA Food Guide Pyramid available through 2005 recommended that meat, poultry, fish, and eggs comprise 14% of the diet, yet 52% of USDA food promotion resources were allocated to these foods. The Pyramid said 33% of the diet should come from fruits and vegetables — which received only 5% of the USDA promotion budget.
for more: http://www.newstarget.com/the_USDA.html
http://www.commondreams.org/views04/0102...
This documentary really exposes the industries that PETA opposes,please watch with an open mind and heart
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GhxKnys7R...
PETA speech-Why we do what we do
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xdmsWF607...
Reply:They compare the killing of animals for food to the mass slaughter of human beings in the Holocaust.
That%26#039;s enough for me to judge this (wacked-out) group.
Why do some people talk about Iran while they don't even know where it's located and confuse it with Iraq?
340>I believe that if you spend 10 minutes reading this essay, you will be better informed than if you listen to a lifetime%26#039;s worth of Major Media news. This article has two parts:
1. Cultural and general info
2. Political info.
Note: I%26#039;ve explained everything.Any answers before reading the whole thing will prove to be wrong.Specially the political part.I%26#039;ve provided evidence for whatever I say.It%26#039;s just the way it is.
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Part 1: Cultural and general info
Hi. I%26#039;m a 19 year old Iranian who has spent his life in Iran.I study English.When I chat with people from other countries, I am shocked to see how totally wrong their ideas are about Iran. I wrote this article in an attempt to help correct those ideas.
The first thing the West accuses our government of is that we don%26#039;t allow personal freedoms. Actually, Iranians disobey laws they don%26#039;t like as much as anyone.There are only a few restrictions.It%26#039;s cool over here. People here do whatever they wish to! Many strict rules in other countries don%26#039;t even exist in Iran. Also, you should understand that what may seem so normal to you, may be a nightmare for us and vise versa.Some of Iran%26#039;s laws are based on OUR culture. You look at our country from %26quot;your own point of view%26quot;! In Iran most houses have a sattelite dish. Sattelite television has a serious influence on our people, and Iranians wear very fashionable clothing. Maybe it is a kind of imitation, but we still have our own unique Iranian style. A visitor might wonder if this is a country or a fantasy pageant of beauty queens! Make-up and fashionable clothing are everywhere.I ignore a few fuddy-duddies though!
In my view, everything is great, if you ignore unemployment, drugs, inflation and air pollution. Also, you can%26#039;t compare Iran today with the Iran you remember. The Shah and the Iatollah Khomini are both some 30 years in the past! 70% of Iran%26#039;s population is a new generation (Under age 30) without the biases of the past and we%26#039;ve transformed everything.
Ever heard Iranian girls are terrific?I%26#039;ve collected some photos showing Iranian girls! Look! Poeple are like this!
http://www.salijoon.ir/bazigar/hedye%20t...
http://www.30nema.com/images/gallery/30n...
http://i10.tinypic.com/4clk3us.jpg
http://tinypic.com/2d0nfao.jpg Is that enough?!
Some people think women don%26#039;t have any rights in Iran. But in my view, women are overrunning the place. They%26#039;re very respectful, and they%26#039;ve been the winners in so many cases: Most of them get into the best universities because they%26#039;re very smart. And they get the best jobs because of their high university degrees. They%26#039;ve got Islamic rights, and that has in some cases made it difficult for men to marry them, because husbands are supposed to buy them expensive things and treat them very well, otherwise women have the right to ask a great amount of money (called Mehr) according to the law, which most husbands cannot afford, so men will be imprisoned.The only thing that women are not allowed to do in Iran is getting into public football stadiums and that%26#039;s because such places are full of cheeky guys. They do anything from taking part in rallies to singing pop songs.Anything! I%26#039;ve put a sample here.
Another funny thing: Your footage about stoning the women who have committed adultery. Have you ever asked yourselves how many years ago that footage related to? But in one case the thing that had happened was incest not adultery. Most of those footages relate to the early days just after Iran%26#039;s revolution! Otherwise you%26#039;d get new footages at least once a month!What exactly makes you think women are treated differently?The way they are treated in Saudi Arabia? Try to think of the racism in your country too.I found a BOOK of the U.S problems and it got me dizzy! Iran has its own problems too. Each country has its own problems.
Iran, Iraq and Afghanistan are --------- SEPERATE COUNTRIES! --------- Even within Iran, 60% of us are Persian and 30% are Turkish! Iran is a normal country like any other in the world. The Media are very good at creating really scary stuff: %26quot;IRAN BEHIND THE CLOSED DOORS!!!%26quot; %26quot;IRAN UNDERCOVER!!!%26quot; Some of that garbage would be enough to scare ME away! But in truth, Iranians are far more open-minded than you have been led to believe.
There are lots of Iranians today who are geniuses and scientists, and are all under age 25. For instance a 17 year old boy has invented 72 amazing inventions. Every year a special scientific compeition is held here and students assemble to show off hundreds of inventions. Iranian students and sportsmen win gold and silver medals in different competitions in the world all the time, in robotics, biology, maths, physics, sports, anything! Why don%26#039;t the Media talk about them? Please don%26#039;t summarize our nation and culture with the single word %26quot;nuclear%26quot;. Although we%26#039;re proud of this achievement because we believe that having nuclear energy means that a country is developed.
A few months ago Iran uncovered the most effective anti-H.I.V medicine. I searched for news of that on the internet, but there was no single sign of it.Now, I found it among the English news: %26quot;The medicine is produced from herbs using nano technology%26quot; The link to read about it is: http://www.payvand.com/news/07/feb/1032....
The Media are unjust. They never talk about facts!
Some interesting facts:
Iran is a pioneer in medicine and genetics, and Iranian surgeons have found lots of new methods for treating spinal defects, and many diseases (mainly the treatment for different types of cancer) and the best brain and heart surgeons are Iranian.The pioneer in heart transplants and artificiall hearts and so on and so! (I%26#039;ve put two websites below) The head of the Mars Mission in NASA is Iranian. One of the best designers of sports cars working in Germany is Iranian. Some of the best 3D animators are Iranian. Iran is one of the best countries in counter-engineering. Holds the second place in building dams and in loads of other things! It%26#039;s one of the top countries in bio-technology and nano-technology. The 4th highest tower in the world (Milad tower) is in Tehran (visit it at this link from wikipedia: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Milad... ). 51 of the top 100 universities in the Mid-East are in Iran, and they%26#039;re among the top universities of the world as well. The champion weight-lifter, a woman the nobel peace prize are Iranian. The 6th top movie director in the world is Iranian.(Abbas Kiarostami) http://arts.guardian.co.uk/fridayreview/...
These are just small samples.If the media told you about Iran%26#039;s achievemens everyday and didn%26#039;t hide them, your news would be full of Iranian news!Iranian girls are famous for being terrific. We have Persian rugs and Persian literature, many Persian poets, artists and scientists that are world famous. Iranian culture is now westernized and only a little of the ancient culture has survived. According to statistics Tehran is the cheapest capital city in the world (one Dollar =about 950 Tomans) There are many other things. How many pages would you need to describe a country? Iran has nearly all the industries and technologies found in %26#039;developed%26#039; countries. Oh, and we have four seasons! We get a lot of snow and there are skating rinks! lol The list is endless.
I%26#039;m gonna introduce Iran%26#039;s international news website to you (Press TV) which was established recently. It%26#039;s fully in English. In the %26quot;Sic / Tech%26quot; section you%26#039;ll always see Iran%26#039;s discoveries. The address is: http://www.presstv.ir/news.aspx Press TV news: Iranian scientists have registered more than 4800 inventions during the last Iranian calendar year of 1385 (April 21 2006-April 20, 2007). 4800 inventions in just one year!
The list of highly-respected Iranian scientists and engineers in the world: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Modern_Iran...
The list of notable Iranian figures and pioneers: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Contemporar...
An extract: Iranian medical community is a significant part of medical community in US and Europe
Enough evidence?
Some people think Iran is a desert! Well, it is, if you consider California a desert. We share the same latitude. Iran is a modern country with breathtakingly beautiful nature and lots of historic places to visit. Please take a look at the following links to see if Iran looks like what you think or not! This is a photo of Tehran (Awesome, Isn%26#039;t it?): http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/co...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tehran
If you like you can visit these too, hundreds of pretty photos from the cities, nature and historic places:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Hills...
http://www.pbase.com/k_amj/throughout_ir...
http://www.pbase.com/k_amj/throughout_ir...
http://www.pbase.com/k_amj/throughout_ir...
http://www.bigsoccer.com:80/forum/showth...
http://www.bigsoccer.com/forum/showthrea...
http://www.bigsoccer.com/forum/showthrea...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iran
Some people think music is forbidden in Iran. %26quot;Music of Iran and Iranian musicians have received countless awards in the course of history. Every year from 1977 to 2007.Evidence? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Music_of_Ir...
I send Iranian music to my American and Canadian chat friends and they all say they%26#039;re some of the best songs they%26#039;ve ever heard.
Here%26#039;s a sample of the latest hits from two official Iranian music websites.You can just right click on the links below and choose %26quot;Save Target As%26quot; to download them. Iranian music is just modern pop and the best sort of it.
1.(You know this: 2007) http://download.bia2music.com/Music/Iran...
2.(Hold my hand: 2007) http://www.sarzaminmp3.com/Sarzaminmusic...
3.(The wetness of your eyes: 2006) http://download.bia2music.com/Music/Iran...
4.(I just want you: 2003) http://download.bia2music.com/Music/Iran...
5.(The rain: 2007) http://download.bia2music.com/Music/Iran...
6.(The window: 2005) http://www.sarzamin.org/Sarzaminmusic/Pe...
7.(Keep me in your memory: 2005) http://www.sarzamin.org/Sarzaminmusic/Pe...
8.(Farangis %26quot;A female name%26quot; 2007) http://download.bia2music.com/Music/Iran...
9.(The distance: 2007) http://www.sarzaminsong.com/Sarzaminmusi...
10.(Sunrise: 2007) http://www.sarzaminsong.com/Sarzaminmusi...
11.(Stop world:2006) http://www.sarzaminmusic.com/Sarzaminmus...
12.(You can%26#039;t: 2007) http://www.sarzaminmp3.com/Sarzaminmusic...
And so on and on!
It%26#039;s now 2007 and most people still think we are uneducated people living in deserts and riding camels!
Part 2: Political info.
Let%26#039;s clarify some political issues as well: Some of the Americans think that president Ahmadinejad hates the U.S and Israel and wants to nuke them!! The Media are good at putting lying comments out there. I really don%26#039;t get the point why our politicians defame themselves by talking about things that have got nothing to do with us. The thing is that they occasionally make some statements that the media would make them controversial topics to interest its viewers! For example they pick up some specific phrases of a long speech (without refering to the main points and reasons for that speech) and put so many bad comments on that.
First of all, Iranians don%26#039;t hate anyone.We hate neither Jews nor Americans. How would our guys dream of America, want to be like them as much as possible, and hate them at the same time?! The truth us that Iranians are the only people in the Mid-East that are pro-American! Being agaisnt the U.S policies is a different story! We live basically the same lives.Don%26#039;t look at the way women dress in public places! You%26#039;ve got to see them in other places!I%26#039;ve got to say that for Iran, Israel is not equal with Jews! Israel is a gov%26#039;t. Jews are faithful people! 20,000 Jews and lots of Christians live here equally with Iranians and two of Iran%26#039;s parliment members are Jews. Who says we want to force others to convert to Islam? Have you ever found a Moslem knocking at your door asking you to do so?
Christians and Jews are both God-believers and respectful to us.
I wonder who Iran is really a threat to. Is it logical to say someone%26#039;s guilty because we THINK / PREDICT that he%26#039;s going to do something wrong? And they repeat the same %26quot;nuclear weapons%26quot; tosh over and over and brainwash people! Correction! It%26#039;s %26quot;nuclear energy%26quot;. Besides, how many %26quot;nuclear weapons%26quot; do they have themselves? Hundreds of thousands? Has Iran ever attacked any countries? No. Has it developed any nukes? No! That%26#039;s what nuclear agency says. Only Iran%26#039;s opponents are pulling Iran%26#039;s leg and what they say is just based on political conflicts. What we%26#039;re doing is legal. Iran is a peaceful country. Why? It%26#039;s the regional super-power and if she wanted, she could easily invade the countries in our neibourhood just like what Saddam did to our country, but as you see Iran has peaceful relations with all of them.
Some people say he said: Israel should be wiped off the map! the thing is that he exactly said: %26quot;The Imam %26quot;Khomeyni%26quot; said this regime occupying Jerusalem must vanish from the page of time.%26quot;They%26#039;ve only told you this phrase not the whole thing and it%26#039;s mistranslated intentionally. Besides, they%26#039;ve been saying such things for a long time.It%26#039;s their habit.Here%26#039;s an article.%26quot;Wiped off the map....The roumor of the century.Read how the media and the U.S newspapers have twisted it into a controvertioal topic. http://www.antiwar.com/orig/norouzi.php?... Now you see that you were wrong.Iran has always defended itself, but it%26#039;s not an offensive country.
Some say he%26#039;s said: %26quot;The Holocaust is a myth!%26quot; Again, this is a single phrase taken from a long speech and there are totally logical reasons for saying so. If 6,000,000 Jews were killed, that%26#039;s terrible, but 300,000 Shiite Moslems killed by Saddam aren%26#039;t important at all? Over 650,000 Iraqi people are killed and that%26#039;s not important?! When Fox News simply says that America and Israel are capable of destroying and killing Iran%26#039;s population of 69,000,000 within two weeks, it%26#039;s OK and no one says they%26#039;re threatening other countries to nuke them (I saw this with my own eyes on the Fox News website) Millions of people killed in Afghanistan, Hiroshima %26amp; Nagasaki and the Vietnam war are not considered human beings at all! Now I think you%26#039;d get the point why he%26#039;s IRONICALLY said it%26#039;s a myth. Moreover, don%26#039;t you believe in freedom of speech/mind? Well, if you%26#039;d like to blame someone for that, hope in a time-machine and sue Hitler! lol
Some countries are using Iran as a scapegoat to put the blame (for their own faults) on.
This part is just for Americans:
Those of you who say why Iran says %26quot;Death to America%26quot;:
1. %26#039;America%26#039; to us means the U.S govt, not the people. How do you expect Iranians to mean %26quot;American people%26quot; when our media admires Americans for marching and holding up %26quot;no war%26quot; placards?! Also, I see a lot of %26quot;Let%26#039;s nuke Iran%26quot;s on YA.Isn%26#039;t that a kind of %26quot;Death to Iran%26quot;?
2. The new generation don%26#039;t say such things and if some of them occasionally march in the streets that%26#039;s because some of the stupid guys enjoy making noise and they mainly go out there to meet their girlfriends/boyfriends! Strange. Isn%26#039;t it?
3. Such mottos are not just said in Iran and as you know whatever you hear is a response to the U.S govt%26#039;s terrible actions which has made life for many people hell (You wouldn%26#039;t deny that attacking countries is a mistake. Would you?)
4. U.S. companies assistance in developing Iraq%26#039;s chemical weapons facilities during the Iran-Iraq war which killed over a million Iranians
5. USS Vincennes shooting down Iran Air Flight 655 with many civilian fatalities
6.U.S. Support for anti-Iranian terrorist organisations (i.e. the MKO);
7. Economic damage caused by U.S. sanctions and political pressure; U.S. UAV overflights over Iran violating Iranian airspace since 2003.
When you call Ahmadinejad a nutcase for what he%26#039;s said, what do you call Bush for his war crimes?
To those who are upset with American hostages taken for 444 days:
1. Firstly, It%26#039;s related to so many years ago and it%26#039;s almost a part of history, and don%26#039;t forget that when there%26#039;s a revolution, there%26#039;d be chaos and people may do things that they should not, moreover they%26#039;re all alive and healthy. Aren%26#039;t they?
2.The U.S has arrested Iranian diplomats in Iraq and had tortured the one who was freed. Now you decide who has the right to be upset with whom. How do you believe in their lies about politics when they hide both the most and the least important things from you considering the fact that politics is the world of lies in its nature?!!!
If you like to insist on your theory of attacking Israel, I%26#039;ll tell you our logical theory: %26quot;The moment that Iran attacks Israel, Iran will be wiped off the face of the earth by the U.S and its allies and Iran is far more logical than doing such a stupid thing%26quot; So, forget about it.I%26#039;m quite sure you know that all the events and lies in the world are a part of a pre-planned scenario by major world-powers (Iran as an important country has always been a part of their plans)And the first step is to brainwash people.They excactly know what will happen even 50 years later! I think Iraq is such a good example.Attacking it with the excuse of removing Saddam while they%26#039;d put Saddam there themselves and had supported him for years! They said they had W.M.Ds and you believed them.Now they say Iran (a member of N.P.T) has nukes / is developing nukes and you believe them wilhe the nuclear agency hasn%26#039;t found any sign of illegal activities.Time to wake up!
Isn%26#039;t it better for both countries to forget past conflicts and to have peaceful relations? Our two gov%26#039;ts are like 10 year old children playing a stupid, harsh, rhetorical game. They don%26#039;t care about hurting people%26#039;s feelings. They just try to make our two peoples enemies to achieve their own goals. We, as the people of these countries, MUST NOT allow these conflics into our hearts. Now, what do you think? I can%26#039;t wait to see both nations in peace. It%26#039;d be marvelous!
Did you find my article informative? : )
Thanks for your time
Reply:Great read! Thank you for posting that.
I am an American. I belive in many %26#039;traditional%26#039; American ideals of freedom, democracy ect. But many people in my country do not embrace these values any more.
Our President is trying to force HIS views (and the views of rich eliteists) on the rest of the world, which is wrong. Not all Americans think as he does, and those that do are easily manipulated into beliving lies. (The facts speak for themselves, yet some people can look at truth and call it a lie! What ignorance!)
You are entitled to your culture and I thank you for sharing it with us!
Reply:Ignorance which breeds hatred
1. Cultural and general info
2. Political info.
Note: I%26#039;ve explained everything.Any answers before reading the whole thing will prove to be wrong.Specially the political part.I%26#039;ve provided evidence for whatever I say.It%26#039;s just the way it is.
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Part 1: Cultural and general info
Hi. I%26#039;m a 19 year old Iranian who has spent his life in Iran.I study English.When I chat with people from other countries, I am shocked to see how totally wrong their ideas are about Iran. I wrote this article in an attempt to help correct those ideas.
The first thing the West accuses our government of is that we don%26#039;t allow personal freedoms. Actually, Iranians disobey laws they don%26#039;t like as much as anyone.There are only a few restrictions.It%26#039;s cool over here. People here do whatever they wish to! Many strict rules in other countries don%26#039;t even exist in Iran. Also, you should understand that what may seem so normal to you, may be a nightmare for us and vise versa.Some of Iran%26#039;s laws are based on OUR culture. You look at our country from %26quot;your own point of view%26quot;! In Iran most houses have a sattelite dish. Sattelite television has a serious influence on our people, and Iranians wear very fashionable clothing. Maybe it is a kind of imitation, but we still have our own unique Iranian style. A visitor might wonder if this is a country or a fantasy pageant of beauty queens! Make-up and fashionable clothing are everywhere.I ignore a few fuddy-duddies though!
In my view, everything is great, if you ignore unemployment, drugs, inflation and air pollution. Also, you can%26#039;t compare Iran today with the Iran you remember. The Shah and the Iatollah Khomini are both some 30 years in the past! 70% of Iran%26#039;s population is a new generation (Under age 30) without the biases of the past and we%26#039;ve transformed everything.
Ever heard Iranian girls are terrific?I%26#039;ve collected some photos showing Iranian girls! Look! Poeple are like this!
http://www.salijoon.ir/bazigar/hedye%20t...
http://www.30nema.com/images/gallery/30n...
http://i10.tinypic.com/4clk3us.jpg
http://tinypic.com/2d0nfao.jpg Is that enough?!
Some people think women don%26#039;t have any rights in Iran. But in my view, women are overrunning the place. They%26#039;re very respectful, and they%26#039;ve been the winners in so many cases: Most of them get into the best universities because they%26#039;re very smart. And they get the best jobs because of their high university degrees. They%26#039;ve got Islamic rights, and that has in some cases made it difficult for men to marry them, because husbands are supposed to buy them expensive things and treat them very well, otherwise women have the right to ask a great amount of money (called Mehr) according to the law, which most husbands cannot afford, so men will be imprisoned.The only thing that women are not allowed to do in Iran is getting into public football stadiums and that%26#039;s because such places are full of cheeky guys. They do anything from taking part in rallies to singing pop songs.Anything! I%26#039;ve put a sample here.
Another funny thing: Your footage about stoning the women who have committed adultery. Have you ever asked yourselves how many years ago that footage related to? But in one case the thing that had happened was incest not adultery. Most of those footages relate to the early days just after Iran%26#039;s revolution! Otherwise you%26#039;d get new footages at least once a month!What exactly makes you think women are treated differently?The way they are treated in Saudi Arabia? Try to think of the racism in your country too.I found a BOOK of the U.S problems and it got me dizzy! Iran has its own problems too. Each country has its own problems.
Iran, Iraq and Afghanistan are --------- SEPERATE COUNTRIES! --------- Even within Iran, 60% of us are Persian and 30% are Turkish! Iran is a normal country like any other in the world. The Media are very good at creating really scary stuff: %26quot;IRAN BEHIND THE CLOSED DOORS!!!%26quot; %26quot;IRAN UNDERCOVER!!!%26quot; Some of that garbage would be enough to scare ME away! But in truth, Iranians are far more open-minded than you have been led to believe.
There are lots of Iranians today who are geniuses and scientists, and are all under age 25. For instance a 17 year old boy has invented 72 amazing inventions. Every year a special scientific compeition is held here and students assemble to show off hundreds of inventions. Iranian students and sportsmen win gold and silver medals in different competitions in the world all the time, in robotics, biology, maths, physics, sports, anything! Why don%26#039;t the Media talk about them? Please don%26#039;t summarize our nation and culture with the single word %26quot;nuclear%26quot;. Although we%26#039;re proud of this achievement because we believe that having nuclear energy means that a country is developed.
A few months ago Iran uncovered the most effective anti-H.I.V medicine. I searched for news of that on the internet, but there was no single sign of it.Now, I found it among the English news: %26quot;The medicine is produced from herbs using nano technology%26quot; The link to read about it is: http://www.payvand.com/news/07/feb/1032....
The Media are unjust. They never talk about facts!
Some interesting facts:
Iran is a pioneer in medicine and genetics, and Iranian surgeons have found lots of new methods for treating spinal defects, and many diseases (mainly the treatment for different types of cancer) and the best brain and heart surgeons are Iranian.The pioneer in heart transplants and artificiall hearts and so on and so! (I%26#039;ve put two websites below) The head of the Mars Mission in NASA is Iranian. One of the best designers of sports cars working in Germany is Iranian. Some of the best 3D animators are Iranian. Iran is one of the best countries in counter-engineering. Holds the second place in building dams and in loads of other things! It%26#039;s one of the top countries in bio-technology and nano-technology. The 4th highest tower in the world (Milad tower) is in Tehran (visit it at this link from wikipedia: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Milad... ). 51 of the top 100 universities in the Mid-East are in Iran, and they%26#039;re among the top universities of the world as well. The champion weight-lifter, a woman the nobel peace prize are Iranian. The 6th top movie director in the world is Iranian.(Abbas Kiarostami) http://arts.guardian.co.uk/fridayreview/...
These are just small samples.If the media told you about Iran%26#039;s achievemens everyday and didn%26#039;t hide them, your news would be full of Iranian news!Iranian girls are famous for being terrific. We have Persian rugs and Persian literature, many Persian poets, artists and scientists that are world famous. Iranian culture is now westernized and only a little of the ancient culture has survived. According to statistics Tehran is the cheapest capital city in the world (one Dollar =about 950 Tomans) There are many other things. How many pages would you need to describe a country? Iran has nearly all the industries and technologies found in %26#039;developed%26#039; countries. Oh, and we have four seasons! We get a lot of snow and there are skating rinks! lol The list is endless.
I%26#039;m gonna introduce Iran%26#039;s international news website to you (Press TV) which was established recently. It%26#039;s fully in English. In the %26quot;Sic / Tech%26quot; section you%26#039;ll always see Iran%26#039;s discoveries. The address is: http://www.presstv.ir/news.aspx Press TV news: Iranian scientists have registered more than 4800 inventions during the last Iranian calendar year of 1385 (April 21 2006-April 20, 2007). 4800 inventions in just one year!
The list of highly-respected Iranian scientists and engineers in the world: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Modern_Iran...
The list of notable Iranian figures and pioneers: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Contemporar...
An extract: Iranian medical community is a significant part of medical community in US and Europe
Enough evidence?
Some people think Iran is a desert! Well, it is, if you consider California a desert. We share the same latitude. Iran is a modern country with breathtakingly beautiful nature and lots of historic places to visit. Please take a look at the following links to see if Iran looks like what you think or not! This is a photo of Tehran (Awesome, Isn%26#039;t it?): http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/co...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tehran
If you like you can visit these too, hundreds of pretty photos from the cities, nature and historic places:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Hills...
http://www.pbase.com/k_amj/throughout_ir...
http://www.pbase.com/k_amj/throughout_ir...
http://www.pbase.com/k_amj/throughout_ir...
http://www.bigsoccer.com:80/forum/showth...
http://www.bigsoccer.com/forum/showthrea...
http://www.bigsoccer.com/forum/showthrea...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iran
Some people think music is forbidden in Iran. %26quot;Music of Iran and Iranian musicians have received countless awards in the course of history. Every year from 1977 to 2007.Evidence? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Music_of_Ir...
I send Iranian music to my American and Canadian chat friends and they all say they%26#039;re some of the best songs they%26#039;ve ever heard.
Here%26#039;s a sample of the latest hits from two official Iranian music websites.You can just right click on the links below and choose %26quot;Save Target As%26quot; to download them. Iranian music is just modern pop and the best sort of it.
1.(You know this: 2007) http://download.bia2music.com/Music/Iran...
2.(Hold my hand: 2007) http://www.sarzaminmp3.com/Sarzaminmusic...
3.(The wetness of your eyes: 2006) http://download.bia2music.com/Music/Iran...
4.(I just want you: 2003) http://download.bia2music.com/Music/Iran...
5.(The rain: 2007) http://download.bia2music.com/Music/Iran...
6.(The window: 2005) http://www.sarzamin.org/Sarzaminmusic/Pe...
7.(Keep me in your memory: 2005) http://www.sarzamin.org/Sarzaminmusic/Pe...
8.(Farangis %26quot;A female name%26quot; 2007) http://download.bia2music.com/Music/Iran...
9.(The distance: 2007) http://www.sarzaminsong.com/Sarzaminmusi...
10.(Sunrise: 2007) http://www.sarzaminsong.com/Sarzaminmusi...
11.(Stop world:2006) http://www.sarzaminmusic.com/Sarzaminmus...
12.(You can%26#039;t: 2007) http://www.sarzaminmp3.com/Sarzaminmusic...
And so on and on!
It%26#039;s now 2007 and most people still think we are uneducated people living in deserts and riding camels!
Part 2: Political info.
Let%26#039;s clarify some political issues as well: Some of the Americans think that president Ahmadinejad hates the U.S and Israel and wants to nuke them!! The Media are good at putting lying comments out there. I really don%26#039;t get the point why our politicians defame themselves by talking about things that have got nothing to do with us. The thing is that they occasionally make some statements that the media would make them controversial topics to interest its viewers! For example they pick up some specific phrases of a long speech (without refering to the main points and reasons for that speech) and put so many bad comments on that.
First of all, Iranians don%26#039;t hate anyone.We hate neither Jews nor Americans. How would our guys dream of America, want to be like them as much as possible, and hate them at the same time?! The truth us that Iranians are the only people in the Mid-East that are pro-American! Being agaisnt the U.S policies is a different story! We live basically the same lives.Don%26#039;t look at the way women dress in public places! You%26#039;ve got to see them in other places!I%26#039;ve got to say that for Iran, Israel is not equal with Jews! Israel is a gov%26#039;t. Jews are faithful people! 20,000 Jews and lots of Christians live here equally with Iranians and two of Iran%26#039;s parliment members are Jews. Who says we want to force others to convert to Islam? Have you ever found a Moslem knocking at your door asking you to do so?
Christians and Jews are both God-believers and respectful to us.
I wonder who Iran is really a threat to. Is it logical to say someone%26#039;s guilty because we THINK / PREDICT that he%26#039;s going to do something wrong? And they repeat the same %26quot;nuclear weapons%26quot; tosh over and over and brainwash people! Correction! It%26#039;s %26quot;nuclear energy%26quot;. Besides, how many %26quot;nuclear weapons%26quot; do they have themselves? Hundreds of thousands? Has Iran ever attacked any countries? No. Has it developed any nukes? No! That%26#039;s what nuclear agency says. Only Iran%26#039;s opponents are pulling Iran%26#039;s leg and what they say is just based on political conflicts. What we%26#039;re doing is legal. Iran is a peaceful country. Why? It%26#039;s the regional super-power and if she wanted, she could easily invade the countries in our neibourhood just like what Saddam did to our country, but as you see Iran has peaceful relations with all of them.
Some people say he said: Israel should be wiped off the map! the thing is that he exactly said: %26quot;The Imam %26quot;Khomeyni%26quot; said this regime occupying Jerusalem must vanish from the page of time.%26quot;They%26#039;ve only told you this phrase not the whole thing and it%26#039;s mistranslated intentionally. Besides, they%26#039;ve been saying such things for a long time.It%26#039;s their habit.Here%26#039;s an article.%26quot;Wiped off the map....The roumor of the century.Read how the media and the U.S newspapers have twisted it into a controvertioal topic. http://www.antiwar.com/orig/norouzi.php?... Now you see that you were wrong.Iran has always defended itself, but it%26#039;s not an offensive country.
Some say he%26#039;s said: %26quot;The Holocaust is a myth!%26quot; Again, this is a single phrase taken from a long speech and there are totally logical reasons for saying so. If 6,000,000 Jews were killed, that%26#039;s terrible, but 300,000 Shiite Moslems killed by Saddam aren%26#039;t important at all? Over 650,000 Iraqi people are killed and that%26#039;s not important?! When Fox News simply says that America and Israel are capable of destroying and killing Iran%26#039;s population of 69,000,000 within two weeks, it%26#039;s OK and no one says they%26#039;re threatening other countries to nuke them (I saw this with my own eyes on the Fox News website) Millions of people killed in Afghanistan, Hiroshima %26amp; Nagasaki and the Vietnam war are not considered human beings at all! Now I think you%26#039;d get the point why he%26#039;s IRONICALLY said it%26#039;s a myth. Moreover, don%26#039;t you believe in freedom of speech/mind? Well, if you%26#039;d like to blame someone for that, hope in a time-machine and sue Hitler! lol
Some countries are using Iran as a scapegoat to put the blame (for their own faults) on.
This part is just for Americans:
Those of you who say why Iran says %26quot;Death to America%26quot;:
1. %26#039;America%26#039; to us means the U.S govt, not the people. How do you expect Iranians to mean %26quot;American people%26quot; when our media admires Americans for marching and holding up %26quot;no war%26quot; placards?! Also, I see a lot of %26quot;Let%26#039;s nuke Iran%26quot;s on YA.Isn%26#039;t that a kind of %26quot;Death to Iran%26quot;?
2. The new generation don%26#039;t say such things and if some of them occasionally march in the streets that%26#039;s because some of the stupid guys enjoy making noise and they mainly go out there to meet their girlfriends/boyfriends! Strange. Isn%26#039;t it?
3. Such mottos are not just said in Iran and as you know whatever you hear is a response to the U.S govt%26#039;s terrible actions which has made life for many people hell (You wouldn%26#039;t deny that attacking countries is a mistake. Would you?)
4. U.S. companies assistance in developing Iraq%26#039;s chemical weapons facilities during the Iran-Iraq war which killed over a million Iranians
5. USS Vincennes shooting down Iran Air Flight 655 with many civilian fatalities
6.U.S. Support for anti-Iranian terrorist organisations (i.e. the MKO);
7. Economic damage caused by U.S. sanctions and political pressure; U.S. UAV overflights over Iran violating Iranian airspace since 2003.
When you call Ahmadinejad a nutcase for what he%26#039;s said, what do you call Bush for his war crimes?
To those who are upset with American hostages taken for 444 days:
1. Firstly, It%26#039;s related to so many years ago and it%26#039;s almost a part of history, and don%26#039;t forget that when there%26#039;s a revolution, there%26#039;d be chaos and people may do things that they should not, moreover they%26#039;re all alive and healthy. Aren%26#039;t they?
2.The U.S has arrested Iranian diplomats in Iraq and had tortured the one who was freed. Now you decide who has the right to be upset with whom. How do you believe in their lies about politics when they hide both the most and the least important things from you considering the fact that politics is the world of lies in its nature?!!!
If you like to insist on your theory of attacking Israel, I%26#039;ll tell you our logical theory: %26quot;The moment that Iran attacks Israel, Iran will be wiped off the face of the earth by the U.S and its allies and Iran is far more logical than doing such a stupid thing%26quot; So, forget about it.I%26#039;m quite sure you know that all the events and lies in the world are a part of a pre-planned scenario by major world-powers (Iran as an important country has always been a part of their plans)And the first step is to brainwash people.They excactly know what will happen even 50 years later! I think Iraq is such a good example.Attacking it with the excuse of removing Saddam while they%26#039;d put Saddam there themselves and had supported him for years! They said they had W.M.Ds and you believed them.Now they say Iran (a member of N.P.T) has nukes / is developing nukes and you believe them wilhe the nuclear agency hasn%26#039;t found any sign of illegal activities.Time to wake up!
Isn%26#039;t it better for both countries to forget past conflicts and to have peaceful relations? Our two gov%26#039;ts are like 10 year old children playing a stupid, harsh, rhetorical game. They don%26#039;t care about hurting people%26#039;s feelings. They just try to make our two peoples enemies to achieve their own goals. We, as the people of these countries, MUST NOT allow these conflics into our hearts. Now, what do you think? I can%26#039;t wait to see both nations in peace. It%26#039;d be marvelous!
Did you find my article informative? : )
Thanks for your time
Reply:Great read! Thank you for posting that.
I am an American. I belive in many %26#039;traditional%26#039; American ideals of freedom, democracy ect. But many people in my country do not embrace these values any more.
Our President is trying to force HIS views (and the views of rich eliteists) on the rest of the world, which is wrong. Not all Americans think as he does, and those that do are easily manipulated into beliving lies. (The facts speak for themselves, yet some people can look at truth and call it a lie! What ignorance!)
You are entitled to your culture and I thank you for sharing it with us!
Reply:Ignorance which breeds hatred
Have you ever looked at Iran from a totally different point of view?
339>If your answer is %26quot;No%26quot; read this:
I believe that if you spend 10 minutes reading this essay, you will be better informed than if you listen to a lifetime%26#039;s worth of Major Media news. This article has two parts:
1. Cultural and general info
2. Political info.
Note: I%26#039;ve explained everything.Any answers before reading the whole thing will prove to be wrong.Specially the political part.I%26#039;ve provided evidence for whatever I say.It%26#039;s just the way it is.
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Part 1: Cultural and general info
Hi. I%26#039;m a 19 year old Iranian who has spent his life in Iran.I study English.When I chat with people from other countries, I am shocked to see how totally wrong their ideas are about Iran. I wrote this article in an attempt to help correct those ideas.
The first thing the West accuses our government of is that we don%26#039;t allow personal freedoms. Actually, Iranians ignore laws they don%26#039;t like as much as anyone.There are only a few restrictions.It%26#039;s cool over here. People here do whatever they wish to! Many strict rules in other countries don%26#039;t even exist in Iran. Also, you should understand that what may seem so normal to you, may be a nightmare for us and vise versa.Some of Iran%26#039;s laws are based on OUR culture. You look at our country from %26quot;your own point of view%26quot;! In Iran most houses have a sattelite dish. Sattelite television has a serious influence on our people, and Iranians wear very fashionable clothing. Maybe it is a kind of imitation, but we still have our own unique Iranian style. A visitor might wonder if this is a country or a fantasy pageant of beauty queens! Make-up and fashionable clothing are everywhere.I ignore a few fuddy-duddies though!
In my view, everything is great, if you ignore unemployment, drugs, inflation and air pollution. Also, you can%26#039;t compare Iran today with the Iran you remember. The Shah and the Iatollah Khomini are both some 30 years in the past! 70% of Iran%26#039;s population is a new generation (Under age 30) without the biases of the past and we%26#039;ve transformed everything.
Ever heard Iranian girls are terrific?I%26#039;ve collected some photos showing Iranian girls!
http://www.salijoon.ir/bazigar/hedye%20t...
http://www.30nema.com/images/gallery/30n...
http://i10.tinypic.com/4clk3us.jpg
http://tinypic.com/2d0nfao.jpg Is that enough?!
Some people think women don%26#039;t have any rights in Iran. Not true.They%26#039;re very respectful, and they%26#039;ve been the winners in so many cases: Most of them get into the best universities because they%26#039;re very smart. And they get the best jobs because of their high university degrees. They%26#039;ve got Islamic rights, and that has in some cases made it difficult for men to marry them, because husbands are supposed to buy them expensive things and treat them very well, otherwise women have the right to ask a great amount of money (called Mehr) according to the law, which most husbands cannot afford, so men will be imprisoned.The only thing that women are not allowed to do in Iran is getting into public football stadiums and that%26#039;s because such places are full of cheeky guys. They do anything from taking part in rallies to singing pop songs.Anything! I%26#039;ve put a sample here.
Another funny thing: Your footage about stoning the women who have committed adultery. Have you ever asked yourselves how many years ago that footage related to? But in one case the thing that had happened was incest not adultery. Most of those footages relate to the early days just after Iran%26#039;s revolution! Otherwise you%26#039;d get new footages at least once a month!What exactly makes you think women are treated differently?The way they are treated in Saudi Arabia? Try to think of the racism in your country too.I found a BOOK of the U.S problems and it got me dizzy! Iran has its own problems too. Each country has its own problems.
Iran, Iraq and Afghanistan are --------- SEPERATE COUNTRIES! --------- Even within Iran, 60% of us are Persian and 30% are Turkish! Iran is a normal country like any other in the world. The Media are very good at creating really scary stuff: %26quot;IRAN BEHIND THE CLOSED DOORS!!!%26quot; %26quot;IRAN UNDERCOVER!!!%26quot; Some of that garbage would be enough to scare ME away! But in truth, Iranians are far more open-minded than you have been led to believe.
There are lots of Iranians today who are geniuses and scientists, and are all under age 25. For instance a 17 year old boy has invented 72 amazing inventions. Every year a special scientific compeition is held here and students assemble to show off hundreds of inventions. Iranian students and sportsmen win gold and silver medals in different competitions in the world all the time, in robotics, biology, maths, physics, sports, anything! Why don%26#039;t the Media talk about them? Please don%26#039;t summarize our nation and culture with the single word %26quot;nuclear%26quot;. Although we%26#039;re proud of this achievement because we believe that having nuclear energy means that a country is developed.
A few months ago Iran uncovered the most effective anti-H.I.V medicine. I searched for news of that on the internet, but there was no single sign of it.Now, I found it among the English news: %26quot;The medicine is produced from herbs using nano technology%26quot; The link to read about it is: http://www.payvand.com/news/07/feb/1032....
The Media are unjust. They never talk about facts!
Some interesting facts:
Iran is a pioneer in medicine and genetics, and Iranian surgeons have found lots of new methods for treating spinal defects, and many diseases (mainly the treatment for different types of cancer) and the best brain and heart surgeons are Iranian.The pioneer in heart transplants and artificiall hearts, %26quot;artificial vessels%26quot; using nano-technology (Reported yesterday) and so on and so! (I%26#039;ve put two websites below) The head of the Mars Mission in NASA is Iranian. One of the best designers of sports cars working in Germany is Iranian. Some of the best 3D animators are Iranian. Iran is one of the best countries in counter-engineering. Holds the second place in building dams and in loads of other things! It%26#039;s one of the top countries in bio-technology and nano-technology. The 4th highest tower in the world (Milad tower) is in Tehran (visit it at this link from wikipedia: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Milad... ). 51 of the top 100 universities in the Mid-East are in Iran, and they%26#039;re among the top universities of the world as well. The champion weight-lifter, a woman the nobel peace prize are Iranian. The 6th top movie director in the world is Iranian.(Abbas Kiarostami) http://arts.guardian.co.uk/fridayreview/...
These are just small samples.If the media told you about Iran%26#039;s achievemens everyday and didn%26#039;t hide them, your news would be full of Iranian news!Iranian girls are famous for being terrific. We have Persian rugs and Persian literature, many Persian poets, artists and scientists that are world famous. Iranian culture is now westernized and only a little of the ancient culture has survived. According to statistics Tehran is the cheapest capital city in the world (one Dollar =about 950 Tomans) There are many other things. How many pages would you need to describe a country? Iran has nearly all the industries and technologies found in %26#039;developed%26#039; countries. Oh, and we have four seasons! We get a lot of snow and there are skating rinks! lol The list is endless.
I%26#039;m gonna introduce Iran%26#039;s international news website to you (Press TV) which was established recently. It%26#039;s fully in English. In the %26quot;Sic / Tech%26quot; section you%26#039;ll always see Iran%26#039;s discoveries. The address is: http://www.presstv.ir/news.aspx Press TV news: Iranian scientists have registered more than 4800 inventions during the last Iranian calendar year of 1385 (April 21 2006-April 20, 2007). 4800 inventions in just one year!
The list of highly-respected Iranian scientists and engineers in the world: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Modern_Iran...
The list of notable Iranian figures and pioneers: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Contemporar...
An extract: Iranian medical community is a significant part of medical community in US and Europe
Enough evidence?
Some people think Iran is a desert! Well, it is, if you consider California a desert. We share the same latitude. Iran is a modern country with breathtakingly beautiful nature and lots of historic places to visit. Please take a look at the following links to see if Iran looks like what you think or not! This is a photo of Tehran (Awesome, Isn%26#039;t it?): http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/co...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tehran
If you like you can visit these too, hundreds of pretty photos from the cities, nature and historic places:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Hills...
http://www.pbase.com/k_amj/throughout_ir...
http://www.pbase.com/k_amj/throughout_ir...
http://www.pbase.com/k_amj/throughout_ir...
http://www.bigsoccer.com:80/forum/showth...
http://www.bigsoccer.com/forum/showthrea...
http://www.bigsoccer.com/forum/showthrea...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iran
Some people think music is forbidden in Iran. %26quot;Music of Iran and Iranian musicians have received countless awards in the course of history. Every year from 1977 to 2007.Evidence? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Music_of_Ir...
I send Iranian music to my American and Canadian chat friends and they all say they%26#039;re some of the best songs they%26#039;ve ever heard.
Here%26#039;s a sample of the latest hits from two official Iranian music websites.You can just right click on the links below and choose %26quot;Save Target As%26quot; to download them. Iranian music is just modern pop which is based on electronic stuff.Experience how awsome music can be produced by electronic Trance drums instead of DJ music!
1.(The window: 2005) http://www.sarzamin.org/Sarzaminmusic/Pe...
2.(Keep me in your memory: 2005) http://www.sarzamin.org/Sarzaminmusic/Pe...
3.(I just want you: 2003) http://download.bia2music.com/Music/Iran...
4.(You know this: 2007) http://download.bia2music.com/Music/Iran...
5.(Hold my hand: 2007) http://www.sarzaminmp3.com/Sarzaminmusic...
6.(The wetness of your eyes: 2006) http://download.bia2music.com/Music/Iran...
7.(The rain: 2007) http://download.bia2music.com/Music/Iran...
8.(Farangis %26quot;A female name%26quot; 2007) http://download.bia2music.com/Music/Iran...
9.(The distance: 2007) http://www.sarzaminsong.com/Sarzaminmusi...
10.(Sunrise: 2007) http://www.sarzaminsong.com/Sarzaminmusi...
11.(Stop world:2006) http://www.sarzaminmusic.com/Sarzaminmus...
12.(You can%26#039;t: 2007) http://www.sarzaminmp3.com/Sarzaminmusic...
And so on and on!
It%26#039;s now 2007 and most people still think we are uneducated people living in deserts and riding camels!
Part 2: Political info.
Let%26#039;s clarify some political issues as well: Some of the Americans think that president Ahmadinejad hates the U.S and Israel and wants to nuke them!! The Media are good at putting lying comments out there. I really don%26#039;t get the point why our politicians defame themselves by talking about things that have got nothing to do with us. The thing is that they occasionally make some statements that the media would make them controversial topics to interest its viewers! For example they pick up some specific phrases of a long speech (without refering to the main points and reasons for that speech) and put so many bad comments on that.
First of all, Iranians don%26#039;t hate anyone.We hate neither Jews nor Americans. How would our guys dream of America, want to be like them as much as possible, and hate them at the same time?! The truth us that Iranians are the only people in the Mid-East that are pro-American! Being agaisnt the U.S policies is a different story! We live basically the same lives.Don%26#039;t look at the way women dress in public places! You%26#039;ve got to see them in other places!I%26#039;ve got to say that for Iran, Israel is not equal with Jews! Israel is a gov%26#039;t. Jews are faithful people! 20,000 Jews and lots of Christians live here equally with Iranians and two of Iran%26#039;s parliment members are Jews. Who says we want to force others to convert to Islam? Have you ever found a Moslem knocking at your door asking you to do so?
Christians and Jews are both God-believers and respectful to us.
I wonder who Iran is really a threat to. Is it logical to say someone%26#039;s guilty because we THINK / PREDICT that he%26#039;s going to do something wrong? And they repeat the same %26quot;nuclear weapons%26quot; tosh over and over and brainwash people! Correction! It%26#039;s %26quot;nuclear energy%26quot;. Besides, how many %26quot;nuclear weapons%26quot; do they have themselves? Hundreds of thousands? Has Iran ever attacked any countries? No. Has it developed any nukes? No! That%26#039;s what nuclear agency says. Only Iran%26#039;s opponents are pulling Iran%26#039;s leg and what they say is just based on political conflicts. What we%26#039;re doing is legal. Iran is a peaceful country. Why? It%26#039;s the regional super-power and if she wanted, she could easily invade the countries in our neibourhood just like what Saddam did to our country, but as you see Iran has peaceful relations with all of them.
Some people say he said: Israel should be wiped off the map! the thing is that he exactly said: %26quot;The Imam %26quot;Khomeyni%26quot; said this regime occupying Jerusalem must vanish from the page of time.%26quot;They%26#039;ve only told you this phrase not the whole thing and it%26#039;s mistranslated intentionally. Besides, they%26#039;ve been saying such things for a long time.It%26#039;s their habit.Here%26#039;s an article.%26quot;Wiped off the map....The roumor of the century.Read how the media and the U.S newspapers have twisted it into a controvertioal topic. http://www.antiwar.com/orig/norouzi.php?... Now you see that you were wrong.Iran has always defended itself, but it%26#039;s not an offensive country.
Some say he%26#039;s said: %26quot;The Holocaust is a myth!%26quot; Again, this is a single phrase taken from a long speech and there are totally logical reasons for saying so. If 6,000,000 Jews were killed, that%26#039;s terrible, but 300,000 Shiite Moslems killed by Saddam aren%26#039;t important at all? Over 650,000 Iraqi people are killed and that%26#039;s not important?! When Fox News simply says that America and Israel are capable of destroying and killing Iran%26#039;s population of 69,000,000 within two weeks, it%26#039;s OK and no one says they%26#039;re threatening other countries to nuke them (I saw this with my own eyes on the Fox News website) Millions of people killed in Afghanistan, Hiroshima %26amp; Nagasaki and the Vietnam war are not considered human beings at all! Now I think you%26#039;d get the point why he%26#039;s IRONICALLY said it%26#039;s a myth. Moreover, don%26#039;t you believe in freedom of speech/mind? Well, if you%26#039;d like to blame someone for that, hope in a time-machine and sue Hitler! lol
Some countries are using Iran as a scapegoat to put the blame (for their own faults) on.
This part is just for Americans:
Those of you who say why Iran says %26quot;Death to America%26quot;:
1. %26#039;America%26#039; to us means the U.S govt, not the people. How do you expect Iranians to mean %26quot;American people%26quot; when our media admires Americans for marching and holding up %26quot;no war%26quot; placards?! Also, I see a lot of %26quot;Let%26#039;s nuke Iran%26quot;s on YA.Isn%26#039;t that a kind of %26quot;Death to Iran%26quot;?
2. The new generation don%26#039;t say such things and if some of them occasionally march in the streets that%26#039;s because some of the stupid guys enjoy making noise and they mainly go out there to meet their girlfriends/boyfriends! Strange. Isn%26#039;t it?
3. Such mottos are not just said in Iran and as you know whatever you hear is a response to the U.S govt%26#039;s terrible actions which has made life for many people hell (You wouldn%26#039;t deny that attacking countries is a mistake. Would you?)
4. U.S. companies assistance in developing Iraq%26#039;s chemical weapons facilities during the Iran-Iraq war which killed over a million Iranians
5. USS Vincennes shooting down Iran Air Flight 655 with many civilian fatalities
6.U.S. Support for anti-Iranian terrorist organisations (i.e. the MKO);
7. Economic damage caused by U.S. sanctions and political pressure; U.S. UAV overflights over Iran violating Iranian airspace since 2003.
To those who are upset with American hostages taken for 444 days:
1. Firstly, It%26#039;s related to so many years ago and it%26#039;s almost a part of history, and don%26#039;t forget that when there%26#039;s a revolution, there%26#039;d be chaos and people may do things that they should not, moreover they%26#039;re all alive and healthy. Aren%26#039;t they?
2.The U.S has arrested Iranian diplomats in Iraq and had tortured the one who was freed. Now you decide who has the right to be upset with whom. How do you believe in their lies about politics when they hide both the most and the least important things from you considering the fact that politics is the world of lies in its nature?!!!
If you like to insist on %26quot;your%26quot; theory of attacking Israel, I%26#039;ll tell you our logical theory: %26quot;The moment that Iran attacks Israel, Iran will be wiped off the face of the earth by the U.S and its allies and Iran is far more logical than doing such a stupid thing%26quot; So, forget about it.I%26#039;m quite sure you know that all the events and lies in the world are a part of a pre-planned scenario by major world-powers (Iran as an important country has always been a part of their plans)And the first step is to brainwash people.They excactly know what will happen even 50 years later! I think Iraq is such a good example.Attacking it with the excuse of removing Saddam while they%26#039;d put Saddam there themselves and had supported him for years! They said they had W.M.Ds and you believed them.Now they say Iran (a member of N.P.T) has nukes / is developing nukes and you believe them wilhe the nuclear agency hasn%26#039;t found any signs of illegal activities.Time to wake up!When you call Ahmadinejad a nutcase for what he%26#039;s said, what do you call Bush for his %26quot;war crimes%26quot;? It%26#039;s funny that the scource of trouble and invasion refuses to accept his own faults and says %26quot;God%26quot; has told him to....!!!! To what?!! I bet if we didn%26#039;t have so much %26quot;oil%26quot; and if we didn%26#039;t develop like our neighbouring countries, no one would pay a slightest attention to Iran! It%26#039;s all a matter of greed and jealousy.They don%26#039;t want a country from the Mid-East to be startling due to their enemity with us so that they can feed you with lies much easier.True but sad: The American media is controlled by Israeli Jews and only a few of you know about it and the media in the rest of the world is deeply affected by the American media due to its high influence.Anyways:
Isn%26#039;t it better for both countries to forget past conflicts and to have peaceful relations? Our two gov%26#039;ts are like 10 year old children playing a stupid, harsh, rhetorical game. They don%26#039;t care about hurting people%26#039;s feelings. They just try to make our two peoples enemies to achieve their own goals. We, as the people of these countries, MUST NOT allow these conflics into our hearts. Now, what do you think? I can%26#039;t wait to see both nations in peace. It%26#039;d be marvelous!
Did you find my article informative? : )
Thanks for your time
Reply:I don%26#039;t even need to read all of this. I have done extensive research on Iranian society and politics, and they are people just like the rest of us. I hate bigots!
Reply:Our media has programmed americans with propaganda. Our CIA put that government in power! Now you don%26#039;t like em? lmao
Reply:I%26#039;m aware of the contribution of Persian culture to the world and I know modern-day Iran isn%26#039;t all bad. It%26#039;s just that I think the present regime isn%26#039;t worthy of the Iranian people.
Reply:%26quot;American media is controlled by Israeli Jews%26quot; sounds a little harsh, but yes AIPAC%26#039;s purse strings run Congress on issues regarding the Middle East and the media is compliant in that only the Pro-Israel perspective is the conventional wisdom.
handsoffiran is a good website for informed activists who are interested in holding their government and corporate/PBS media accountable about misinformation about Iran.
Reply:Thats funny Rick. I think the same of my national government. I live in Washington DC.
Reply:The little Iranian boy who made this post is a little bit of an extremist.
My mother is Persian and her family came to the US after the Shah was ousted. We keep into contact with lots of family over there and every day the government is restricting rights of the newspapers, news channels, and most importantly, college students.
We have family that are stuck over there that are completely horrified. The Shah did have lots of problems, but he was a secular leader that took power away from the muslim fundamentalists and gave women rights. This really pissed off all the ignorant Imams and religious leaders of Iran, the same ones that are in power now.
But he is right on one thing, Iran isnt really a threat. Their leaders are just drawing a line in the sand to show Muslims that they can stand up to the West and survive. Unfortunately our politicians are taking the bait. If they were going to try to make bombs, they would be doing so in secret. We missed out on a good opportunity to put Iran in its place with the whole British Sailors thing.
This government in Iran isnt worthy to even associate itself with all the great history and accomplishments of the Persian people all these years. But, the Iranian people were who replaced the Shah who is looked on more as a despot, with an even more radical and oppresive ruler in Khomenei. Thus, the Iranian people will have to get themselves out of this mess as well.
Reply:After the islamic revolution that you have done in 70s I think you are not cool anymore... If you did not have the petrol to finance yourself you will be no cooler than Afganistan... US shouldn%26#039;t complain about the Iran after all they were the one who subsidized the Islamic revolution against communism... Belive me your are not a best example for secularism too... And please lets cut the crap of Iranian girls being beautiful... I live close to Iran and all I cal tell that Iran cannot be descirbed as the youngon said %26quot;cool%26quot; in the dictionary... At least not in mine...
Reply:After you have asked this %26quot;question%26quot; many times (do searches on Iran real, Iran truth or Iran minutes) you haven%26#039;t collected enough %26quot;answers%26quot; yet? I%26#039;m all for spreading alternate points of view but it seems Y!A has rules against excessive asking of the same question as well as using Y!A as a soapbox. Please find a forum more appropriate for this discussion. Yahoo! Groups or Yahoo! Messenger Chat Rooms come to mind.
I believe that if you spend 10 minutes reading this essay, you will be better informed than if you listen to a lifetime%26#039;s worth of Major Media news. This article has two parts:
1. Cultural and general info
2. Political info.
Note: I%26#039;ve explained everything.Any answers before reading the whole thing will prove to be wrong.Specially the political part.I%26#039;ve provided evidence for whatever I say.It%26#039;s just the way it is.
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Part 1: Cultural and general info
Hi. I%26#039;m a 19 year old Iranian who has spent his life in Iran.I study English.When I chat with people from other countries, I am shocked to see how totally wrong their ideas are about Iran. I wrote this article in an attempt to help correct those ideas.
The first thing the West accuses our government of is that we don%26#039;t allow personal freedoms. Actually, Iranians ignore laws they don%26#039;t like as much as anyone.There are only a few restrictions.It%26#039;s cool over here. People here do whatever they wish to! Many strict rules in other countries don%26#039;t even exist in Iran. Also, you should understand that what may seem so normal to you, may be a nightmare for us and vise versa.Some of Iran%26#039;s laws are based on OUR culture. You look at our country from %26quot;your own point of view%26quot;! In Iran most houses have a sattelite dish. Sattelite television has a serious influence on our people, and Iranians wear very fashionable clothing. Maybe it is a kind of imitation, but we still have our own unique Iranian style. A visitor might wonder if this is a country or a fantasy pageant of beauty queens! Make-up and fashionable clothing are everywhere.I ignore a few fuddy-duddies though!
In my view, everything is great, if you ignore unemployment, drugs, inflation and air pollution. Also, you can%26#039;t compare Iran today with the Iran you remember. The Shah and the Iatollah Khomini are both some 30 years in the past! 70% of Iran%26#039;s population is a new generation (Under age 30) without the biases of the past and we%26#039;ve transformed everything.
Ever heard Iranian girls are terrific?I%26#039;ve collected some photos showing Iranian girls!
http://www.salijoon.ir/bazigar/hedye%20t...
http://www.30nema.com/images/gallery/30n...
http://i10.tinypic.com/4clk3us.jpg
http://tinypic.com/2d0nfao.jpg Is that enough?!
Some people think women don%26#039;t have any rights in Iran. Not true.They%26#039;re very respectful, and they%26#039;ve been the winners in so many cases: Most of them get into the best universities because they%26#039;re very smart. And they get the best jobs because of their high university degrees. They%26#039;ve got Islamic rights, and that has in some cases made it difficult for men to marry them, because husbands are supposed to buy them expensive things and treat them very well, otherwise women have the right to ask a great amount of money (called Mehr) according to the law, which most husbands cannot afford, so men will be imprisoned.The only thing that women are not allowed to do in Iran is getting into public football stadiums and that%26#039;s because such places are full of cheeky guys. They do anything from taking part in rallies to singing pop songs.Anything! I%26#039;ve put a sample here.
Another funny thing: Your footage about stoning the women who have committed adultery. Have you ever asked yourselves how many years ago that footage related to? But in one case the thing that had happened was incest not adultery. Most of those footages relate to the early days just after Iran%26#039;s revolution! Otherwise you%26#039;d get new footages at least once a month!What exactly makes you think women are treated differently?The way they are treated in Saudi Arabia? Try to think of the racism in your country too.I found a BOOK of the U.S problems and it got me dizzy! Iran has its own problems too. Each country has its own problems.
Iran, Iraq and Afghanistan are --------- SEPERATE COUNTRIES! --------- Even within Iran, 60% of us are Persian and 30% are Turkish! Iran is a normal country like any other in the world. The Media are very good at creating really scary stuff: %26quot;IRAN BEHIND THE CLOSED DOORS!!!%26quot; %26quot;IRAN UNDERCOVER!!!%26quot; Some of that garbage would be enough to scare ME away! But in truth, Iranians are far more open-minded than you have been led to believe.
There are lots of Iranians today who are geniuses and scientists, and are all under age 25. For instance a 17 year old boy has invented 72 amazing inventions. Every year a special scientific compeition is held here and students assemble to show off hundreds of inventions. Iranian students and sportsmen win gold and silver medals in different competitions in the world all the time, in robotics, biology, maths, physics, sports, anything! Why don%26#039;t the Media talk about them? Please don%26#039;t summarize our nation and culture with the single word %26quot;nuclear%26quot;. Although we%26#039;re proud of this achievement because we believe that having nuclear energy means that a country is developed.
A few months ago Iran uncovered the most effective anti-H.I.V medicine. I searched for news of that on the internet, but there was no single sign of it.Now, I found it among the English news: %26quot;The medicine is produced from herbs using nano technology%26quot; The link to read about it is: http://www.payvand.com/news/07/feb/1032....
The Media are unjust. They never talk about facts!
Some interesting facts:
Iran is a pioneer in medicine and genetics, and Iranian surgeons have found lots of new methods for treating spinal defects, and many diseases (mainly the treatment for different types of cancer) and the best brain and heart surgeons are Iranian.The pioneer in heart transplants and artificiall hearts, %26quot;artificial vessels%26quot; using nano-technology (Reported yesterday) and so on and so! (I%26#039;ve put two websites below) The head of the Mars Mission in NASA is Iranian. One of the best designers of sports cars working in Germany is Iranian. Some of the best 3D animators are Iranian. Iran is one of the best countries in counter-engineering. Holds the second place in building dams and in loads of other things! It%26#039;s one of the top countries in bio-technology and nano-technology. The 4th highest tower in the world (Milad tower) is in Tehran (visit it at this link from wikipedia: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Milad... ). 51 of the top 100 universities in the Mid-East are in Iran, and they%26#039;re among the top universities of the world as well. The champion weight-lifter, a woman the nobel peace prize are Iranian. The 6th top movie director in the world is Iranian.(Abbas Kiarostami) http://arts.guardian.co.uk/fridayreview/...
These are just small samples.If the media told you about Iran%26#039;s achievemens everyday and didn%26#039;t hide them, your news would be full of Iranian news!Iranian girls are famous for being terrific. We have Persian rugs and Persian literature, many Persian poets, artists and scientists that are world famous. Iranian culture is now westernized and only a little of the ancient culture has survived. According to statistics Tehran is the cheapest capital city in the world (one Dollar =about 950 Tomans) There are many other things. How many pages would you need to describe a country? Iran has nearly all the industries and technologies found in %26#039;developed%26#039; countries. Oh, and we have four seasons! We get a lot of snow and there are skating rinks! lol The list is endless.
I%26#039;m gonna introduce Iran%26#039;s international news website to you (Press TV) which was established recently. It%26#039;s fully in English. In the %26quot;Sic / Tech%26quot; section you%26#039;ll always see Iran%26#039;s discoveries. The address is: http://www.presstv.ir/news.aspx Press TV news: Iranian scientists have registered more than 4800 inventions during the last Iranian calendar year of 1385 (April 21 2006-April 20, 2007). 4800 inventions in just one year!
The list of highly-respected Iranian scientists and engineers in the world: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Modern_Iran...
The list of notable Iranian figures and pioneers: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Contemporar...
An extract: Iranian medical community is a significant part of medical community in US and Europe
Enough evidence?
Some people think Iran is a desert! Well, it is, if you consider California a desert. We share the same latitude. Iran is a modern country with breathtakingly beautiful nature and lots of historic places to visit. Please take a look at the following links to see if Iran looks like what you think or not! This is a photo of Tehran (Awesome, Isn%26#039;t it?): http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/co...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tehran
If you like you can visit these too, hundreds of pretty photos from the cities, nature and historic places:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Hills...
http://www.pbase.com/k_amj/throughout_ir...
http://www.pbase.com/k_amj/throughout_ir...
http://www.pbase.com/k_amj/throughout_ir...
http://www.bigsoccer.com:80/forum/showth...
http://www.bigsoccer.com/forum/showthrea...
http://www.bigsoccer.com/forum/showthrea...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iran
Some people think music is forbidden in Iran. %26quot;Music of Iran and Iranian musicians have received countless awards in the course of history. Every year from 1977 to 2007.Evidence? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Music_of_Ir...
I send Iranian music to my American and Canadian chat friends and they all say they%26#039;re some of the best songs they%26#039;ve ever heard.
Here%26#039;s a sample of the latest hits from two official Iranian music websites.You can just right click on the links below and choose %26quot;Save Target As%26quot; to download them. Iranian music is just modern pop which is based on electronic stuff.Experience how awsome music can be produced by electronic Trance drums instead of DJ music!
1.(The window: 2005) http://www.sarzamin.org/Sarzaminmusic/Pe...
2.(Keep me in your memory: 2005) http://www.sarzamin.org/Sarzaminmusic/Pe...
3.(I just want you: 2003) http://download.bia2music.com/Music/Iran...
4.(You know this: 2007) http://download.bia2music.com/Music/Iran...
5.(Hold my hand: 2007) http://www.sarzaminmp3.com/Sarzaminmusic...
6.(The wetness of your eyes: 2006) http://download.bia2music.com/Music/Iran...
7.(The rain: 2007) http://download.bia2music.com/Music/Iran...
8.(Farangis %26quot;A female name%26quot; 2007) http://download.bia2music.com/Music/Iran...
9.(The distance: 2007) http://www.sarzaminsong.com/Sarzaminmusi...
10.(Sunrise: 2007) http://www.sarzaminsong.com/Sarzaminmusi...
11.(Stop world:2006) http://www.sarzaminmusic.com/Sarzaminmus...
12.(You can%26#039;t: 2007) http://www.sarzaminmp3.com/Sarzaminmusic...
And so on and on!
It%26#039;s now 2007 and most people still think we are uneducated people living in deserts and riding camels!
Part 2: Political info.
Let%26#039;s clarify some political issues as well: Some of the Americans think that president Ahmadinejad hates the U.S and Israel and wants to nuke them!! The Media are good at putting lying comments out there. I really don%26#039;t get the point why our politicians defame themselves by talking about things that have got nothing to do with us. The thing is that they occasionally make some statements that the media would make them controversial topics to interest its viewers! For example they pick up some specific phrases of a long speech (without refering to the main points and reasons for that speech) and put so many bad comments on that.
First of all, Iranians don%26#039;t hate anyone.We hate neither Jews nor Americans. How would our guys dream of America, want to be like them as much as possible, and hate them at the same time?! The truth us that Iranians are the only people in the Mid-East that are pro-American! Being agaisnt the U.S policies is a different story! We live basically the same lives.Don%26#039;t look at the way women dress in public places! You%26#039;ve got to see them in other places!I%26#039;ve got to say that for Iran, Israel is not equal with Jews! Israel is a gov%26#039;t. Jews are faithful people! 20,000 Jews and lots of Christians live here equally with Iranians and two of Iran%26#039;s parliment members are Jews. Who says we want to force others to convert to Islam? Have you ever found a Moslem knocking at your door asking you to do so?
Christians and Jews are both God-believers and respectful to us.
I wonder who Iran is really a threat to. Is it logical to say someone%26#039;s guilty because we THINK / PREDICT that he%26#039;s going to do something wrong? And they repeat the same %26quot;nuclear weapons%26quot; tosh over and over and brainwash people! Correction! It%26#039;s %26quot;nuclear energy%26quot;. Besides, how many %26quot;nuclear weapons%26quot; do they have themselves? Hundreds of thousands? Has Iran ever attacked any countries? No. Has it developed any nukes? No! That%26#039;s what nuclear agency says. Only Iran%26#039;s opponents are pulling Iran%26#039;s leg and what they say is just based on political conflicts. What we%26#039;re doing is legal. Iran is a peaceful country. Why? It%26#039;s the regional super-power and if she wanted, she could easily invade the countries in our neibourhood just like what Saddam did to our country, but as you see Iran has peaceful relations with all of them.
Some people say he said: Israel should be wiped off the map! the thing is that he exactly said: %26quot;The Imam %26quot;Khomeyni%26quot; said this regime occupying Jerusalem must vanish from the page of time.%26quot;They%26#039;ve only told you this phrase not the whole thing and it%26#039;s mistranslated intentionally. Besides, they%26#039;ve been saying such things for a long time.It%26#039;s their habit.Here%26#039;s an article.%26quot;Wiped off the map....The roumor of the century.Read how the media and the U.S newspapers have twisted it into a controvertioal topic. http://www.antiwar.com/orig/norouzi.php?... Now you see that you were wrong.Iran has always defended itself, but it%26#039;s not an offensive country.
Some say he%26#039;s said: %26quot;The Holocaust is a myth!%26quot; Again, this is a single phrase taken from a long speech and there are totally logical reasons for saying so. If 6,000,000 Jews were killed, that%26#039;s terrible, but 300,000 Shiite Moslems killed by Saddam aren%26#039;t important at all? Over 650,000 Iraqi people are killed and that%26#039;s not important?! When Fox News simply says that America and Israel are capable of destroying and killing Iran%26#039;s population of 69,000,000 within two weeks, it%26#039;s OK and no one says they%26#039;re threatening other countries to nuke them (I saw this with my own eyes on the Fox News website) Millions of people killed in Afghanistan, Hiroshima %26amp; Nagasaki and the Vietnam war are not considered human beings at all! Now I think you%26#039;d get the point why he%26#039;s IRONICALLY said it%26#039;s a myth. Moreover, don%26#039;t you believe in freedom of speech/mind? Well, if you%26#039;d like to blame someone for that, hope in a time-machine and sue Hitler! lol
Some countries are using Iran as a scapegoat to put the blame (for their own faults) on.
This part is just for Americans:
Those of you who say why Iran says %26quot;Death to America%26quot;:
1. %26#039;America%26#039; to us means the U.S govt, not the people. How do you expect Iranians to mean %26quot;American people%26quot; when our media admires Americans for marching and holding up %26quot;no war%26quot; placards?! Also, I see a lot of %26quot;Let%26#039;s nuke Iran%26quot;s on YA.Isn%26#039;t that a kind of %26quot;Death to Iran%26quot;?
2. The new generation don%26#039;t say such things and if some of them occasionally march in the streets that%26#039;s because some of the stupid guys enjoy making noise and they mainly go out there to meet their girlfriends/boyfriends! Strange. Isn%26#039;t it?
3. Such mottos are not just said in Iran and as you know whatever you hear is a response to the U.S govt%26#039;s terrible actions which has made life for many people hell (You wouldn%26#039;t deny that attacking countries is a mistake. Would you?)
4. U.S. companies assistance in developing Iraq%26#039;s chemical weapons facilities during the Iran-Iraq war which killed over a million Iranians
5. USS Vincennes shooting down Iran Air Flight 655 with many civilian fatalities
6.U.S. Support for anti-Iranian terrorist organisations (i.e. the MKO);
7. Economic damage caused by U.S. sanctions and political pressure; U.S. UAV overflights over Iran violating Iranian airspace since 2003.
To those who are upset with American hostages taken for 444 days:
1. Firstly, It%26#039;s related to so many years ago and it%26#039;s almost a part of history, and don%26#039;t forget that when there%26#039;s a revolution, there%26#039;d be chaos and people may do things that they should not, moreover they%26#039;re all alive and healthy. Aren%26#039;t they?
2.The U.S has arrested Iranian diplomats in Iraq and had tortured the one who was freed. Now you decide who has the right to be upset with whom. How do you believe in their lies about politics when they hide both the most and the least important things from you considering the fact that politics is the world of lies in its nature?!!!
If you like to insist on %26quot;your%26quot; theory of attacking Israel, I%26#039;ll tell you our logical theory: %26quot;The moment that Iran attacks Israel, Iran will be wiped off the face of the earth by the U.S and its allies and Iran is far more logical than doing such a stupid thing%26quot; So, forget about it.I%26#039;m quite sure you know that all the events and lies in the world are a part of a pre-planned scenario by major world-powers (Iran as an important country has always been a part of their plans)And the first step is to brainwash people.They excactly know what will happen even 50 years later! I think Iraq is such a good example.Attacking it with the excuse of removing Saddam while they%26#039;d put Saddam there themselves and had supported him for years! They said they had W.M.Ds and you believed them.Now they say Iran (a member of N.P.T) has nukes / is developing nukes and you believe them wilhe the nuclear agency hasn%26#039;t found any signs of illegal activities.Time to wake up!When you call Ahmadinejad a nutcase for what he%26#039;s said, what do you call Bush for his %26quot;war crimes%26quot;? It%26#039;s funny that the scource of trouble and invasion refuses to accept his own faults and says %26quot;God%26quot; has told him to....!!!! To what?!! I bet if we didn%26#039;t have so much %26quot;oil%26quot; and if we didn%26#039;t develop like our neighbouring countries, no one would pay a slightest attention to Iran! It%26#039;s all a matter of greed and jealousy.They don%26#039;t want a country from the Mid-East to be startling due to their enemity with us so that they can feed you with lies much easier.True but sad: The American media is controlled by Israeli Jews and only a few of you know about it and the media in the rest of the world is deeply affected by the American media due to its high influence.Anyways:
Isn%26#039;t it better for both countries to forget past conflicts and to have peaceful relations? Our two gov%26#039;ts are like 10 year old children playing a stupid, harsh, rhetorical game. They don%26#039;t care about hurting people%26#039;s feelings. They just try to make our two peoples enemies to achieve their own goals. We, as the people of these countries, MUST NOT allow these conflics into our hearts. Now, what do you think? I can%26#039;t wait to see both nations in peace. It%26#039;d be marvelous!
Did you find my article informative? : )
Thanks for your time
Reply:I don%26#039;t even need to read all of this. I have done extensive research on Iranian society and politics, and they are people just like the rest of us. I hate bigots!
Reply:Our media has programmed americans with propaganda. Our CIA put that government in power! Now you don%26#039;t like em? lmao
Reply:I%26#039;m aware of the contribution of Persian culture to the world and I know modern-day Iran isn%26#039;t all bad. It%26#039;s just that I think the present regime isn%26#039;t worthy of the Iranian people.
Reply:%26quot;American media is controlled by Israeli Jews%26quot; sounds a little harsh, but yes AIPAC%26#039;s purse strings run Congress on issues regarding the Middle East and the media is compliant in that only the Pro-Israel perspective is the conventional wisdom.
handsoffiran is a good website for informed activists who are interested in holding their government and corporate/PBS media accountable about misinformation about Iran.
Reply:Thats funny Rick. I think the same of my national government. I live in Washington DC.
Reply:The little Iranian boy who made this post is a little bit of an extremist.
My mother is Persian and her family came to the US after the Shah was ousted. We keep into contact with lots of family over there and every day the government is restricting rights of the newspapers, news channels, and most importantly, college students.
We have family that are stuck over there that are completely horrified. The Shah did have lots of problems, but he was a secular leader that took power away from the muslim fundamentalists and gave women rights. This really pissed off all the ignorant Imams and religious leaders of Iran, the same ones that are in power now.
But he is right on one thing, Iran isnt really a threat. Their leaders are just drawing a line in the sand to show Muslims that they can stand up to the West and survive. Unfortunately our politicians are taking the bait. If they were going to try to make bombs, they would be doing so in secret. We missed out on a good opportunity to put Iran in its place with the whole British Sailors thing.
This government in Iran isnt worthy to even associate itself with all the great history and accomplishments of the Persian people all these years. But, the Iranian people were who replaced the Shah who is looked on more as a despot, with an even more radical and oppresive ruler in Khomenei. Thus, the Iranian people will have to get themselves out of this mess as well.
Reply:After the islamic revolution that you have done in 70s I think you are not cool anymore... If you did not have the petrol to finance yourself you will be no cooler than Afganistan... US shouldn%26#039;t complain about the Iran after all they were the one who subsidized the Islamic revolution against communism... Belive me your are not a best example for secularism too... And please lets cut the crap of Iranian girls being beautiful... I live close to Iran and all I cal tell that Iran cannot be descirbed as the youngon said %26quot;cool%26quot; in the dictionary... At least not in mine...
Reply:After you have asked this %26quot;question%26quot; many times (do searches on Iran real, Iran truth or Iran minutes) you haven%26#039;t collected enough %26quot;answers%26quot; yet? I%26#039;m all for spreading alternate points of view but it seems Y!A has rules against excessive asking of the same question as well as using Y!A as a soapbox. Please find a forum more appropriate for this discussion. Yahoo! Groups or Yahoo! Messenger Chat Rooms come to mind.
Night from Iran: What will you think of us after reading this?
338>I believe that if you spend 10 minutes reading this essay, you will be better informed than if you listen to a lifetime%26#039;s worth of Major Media news. This article has two parts:
1. Cultural and general info
2. Political info.
Note: I%26#039;ve explained everything.Any answers before reading the whole thing will prove to be wrong.Specially the political part.I%26#039;ve provided evidence for whatever I say.It%26#039;s just the way it is.
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Part 1: Cultural and general info
Hi. I%26#039;m a 19 year old Iranian who has spent his life in Iran.I study English.When I chat with people from other countries, I am shocked to see how totally wrong their ideas are about Iran. I wrote this article in an attempt to help correct those ideas.
The first thing the West accuses our government of is that we don%26#039;t allow personal freedoms. Actually, Iranians disobey laws they don%26#039;t like as much as anyone.There are only a few restrictions.It%26#039;s cool over here. People here do whatever they wish to! Many strict rules in other countries don%26#039;t even exist in Iran. Also, you should understand that what may seem so normal to you, may be a nightmare for us and vise versa.Some of Iran%26#039;s laws are based on OUR culture. You look at our country from %26quot;your own point of view%26quot;! In Iran most houses have a sattelite dish. Sattelite television has a serious influence on our people, and Iranians wear very fashionable clothing. Maybe it is a kind of imitation, but we still have our own unique Iranian style. A visitor might wonder if this is a country or a fantasy pageant of beauty queens! Make-up and fashionable clothing are everywhere.I ignore a few fuddy-duddies though!
In my view, everything is great, if you ignore unemployment, drugs, inflation and air pollution. Also, you can%26#039;t compare Iran today with the Iran you remember. The Shah and the Iatollah Khomini are both some 30 years in the past! 70% of Iran%26#039;s population is a new generation (Under age 30) without the biases of the past and we%26#039;ve transformed everything.
Ever heard Iranian girls are terrific?I%26#039;ve collected some photos showing Iranian girls! Look! Poeple are like this!
http://www.salijoon.ir/bazigar/hedye%20t...
http://www.30nema.com/images/gallery/30n...
http://i10.tinypic.com/4clk3us.jpg
http://tinypic.com/2d0nfao.jpg Is that enough?!
Some people think women don%26#039;t have any rights in Iran. But in my view, women are overrunning the place. They%26#039;re very respectful, and they%26#039;ve been the winners in so many cases: Most of them get into the best universities because they%26#039;re very smart. And they get the best jobs because of their high university degrees. They%26#039;ve got Islamic rights, and that has in some cases made it difficult for men to marry them, because husbands are supposed to buy them expensive things and treat them very well, otherwise women have the right to ask a great amount of money (called Mehr) according to the law, which most husbands cannot afford, so men will be imprisoned.The only thing that women are not allowed to do in Iran is getting into public football stadiums and that%26#039;s because such places are full of cheeky guys. They do anything from taking part in rallies to singing pop songs.Anything! I%26#039;ve put a sample here.
Another funny thing: Your footage about stoning the women who have committed adultery. Have you ever asked yourselves how many years ago that footage related to? But in one case the thing that had happened was incest not adultery. Most of those footages relate to the early days just after Iran%26#039;s revolution! Otherwise you%26#039;d get new footages at least once a month!What exactly makes you think women are treated differently?The way they are treated in Saudi Arabia? Try to think of the racism in your country too.I found a BOOK of the U.S problems and it got me dizzy! Iran has its own problems too. Each country has its own problems.
Iran, Iraq and Afghanistan are --------- SEPERATE COUNTRIES! --------- Even within Iran, 60% of us are Persian and 30% are Turkish! Iran is a normal country like any other in the world. The Media are very good at creating really scary stuff: %26quot;IRAN BEHIND THE CLOSED DOORS!!!%26quot; %26quot;IRAN UNDERCOVER!!!%26quot; Some of that garbage would be enough to scare ME away! But in truth, Iranians are far more open-minded than you have been led to believe.
There are lots of Iranians today who are geniuses and scientists, and are all under age 25. For instance a 17 year old boy has invented 72 amazing inventions. Every year a special scientific compeition is held here and students assemble to show off hundreds of inventions. Iranian students and sportsmen win gold and silver medals in different competitions in the world all the time, in robotics, biology, maths, physics, sports, anything! Why don%26#039;t the Media talk about them? Please don%26#039;t summarize our nation and culture with the single word %26quot;nuclear%26quot;. Although we%26#039;re proud of this achievement because we believe that having nuclear energy means that a country is developed.
A few months ago Iran uncovered the most effective anti-H.I.V medicine. I searched for news of that on the internet, but there was no single sign of it.Now, I found it among the English news: %26quot;The medicine is produced from herbs using nano technology%26quot; The link to read about it is: http://www.payvand.com/news/07/feb/1032....
The Media are unjust. They never talk about facts!
Some interesting facts:
Iran is a pioneer in medicine and genetics, and Iranian surgeons have found lots of new methods for treating spinal defects, and many diseases (mainly the treatment for different types of cancer) and the best brain and heart surgeons are Iranian.The pioneer in heart transplants and artificiall hearts and so on and so! (I%26#039;ve put two websites below) The head of the Mars Mission in NASA is Iranian. One of the best designers of sports cars working in Germany is Iranian. Some of the best 3D animators are Iranian. Iran is one of the best countries in counter-engineering. Holds the second place in building dams and in loads of other things! It%26#039;s one of the top countries in bio-technology and nano-technology. The 4th highest tower in the world (Milad tower) is in Tehran (visit it at this link from wikipedia: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Milad... ). 51 of the top 100 universities in the Mid-East are in Iran, and they%26#039;re among the top universities of the world as well. The champion weight-lifter, a woman the nobel peace prize are Iranian. The 6th top movie director in the world is Iranian.(Abbas Kiarostami) http://arts.guardian.co.uk/fridayreview/...
These are just small samples.If the media told you about Iran%26#039;s achievemens everyday and didn%26#039;t hide them, your news would be full of Iranian news!Iranian girls are famous for being terrific. We have Persian rugs and Persian literature, many Persian poets, artists and scientists that are world famous. Iranian culture is now westernized and only a little of the ancient culture has survived. According to statistics Tehran is the cheapest capital city in the world (one Dollar =about 950 Tomans) There are many other things. How many pages would you need to describe a country? Iran has nearly all the industries and technologies found in %26#039;developed%26#039; countries. Oh, and we have four seasons! We get a lot of snow and there are skating rinks! lol The list is endless.
I%26#039;m gonna introduce Iran%26#039;s international news website to you (Press TV) which was established recently. It%26#039;s fully in English. In the %26quot;Sic / Tech%26quot; section you%26#039;ll always see Iran%26#039;s discoveries. The address is: http://www.presstv.ir/news.aspx Press TV news: Iranian scientists have registered more than 4800 inventions during the last Iranian calendar year of 1385 (April 21 2006-April 20, 2007). 4800 inventions in just one year!
The list of highly-respected Iranian scientists and engineers in the world: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Modern_Iran...
The list of notable Iranian figures and pioneers: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Contemporar...
An extract: Iranian medical community is a significant part of medical community in US and Europe
Enough evidence?
Some people think Iran is a desert! Well, it is, if you consider California a desert. We share the same latitude. Iran is a modern country with breathtakingly beautiful nature and lots of historic places to visit. Please take a look at the following links to see if Iran looks like what you think or not! This is a photo of Tehran (Awesome, Isn%26#039;t it?): http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/co...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tehran
If you like you can visit these too, hundreds of pretty photos from the cities, nature and historic places:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Hills...
http://www.pbase.com/k_amj/throughout_ir...
http://www.pbase.com/k_amj/throughout_ir...
http://www.pbase.com/k_amj/throughout_ir...
http://www.bigsoccer.com:80/forum/showth...
http://www.bigsoccer.com/forum/showthrea...
http://www.bigsoccer.com/forum/showthrea...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iran
Some people think music is forbidden in Iran. %26quot;Music of Iran and Iranian musicians have received countless awards in the course of history. Every year from 1977 to 2007.Evidence? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Music_of_Ir...
I send Iranian music to my American and Canadian chat friends and they all say they%26#039;re some of the best songs they%26#039;ve ever heard.
Here%26#039;s a sample of the latest hits from two official Iranian music websites.You can just right click on the links below and choose %26quot;Save Target As%26quot; to download them. Iranian music is just modern pop and the best sort of it.
1.(You know this: 2007) http://download.bia2music.com/Music/Iran...
2.(Hold my hand: 2007) http://www.sarzaminmp3.com/Sarzaminmusic...
3.(The wetness of your eyes: 2006) http://download.bia2music.com/Music/Iran...
4.(I just want you: 2003) http://download.bia2music.com/Music/Iran...
5.(The rain: 2007) http://download.bia2music.com/Music/Iran...
6.(The window: 2005) http://www.sarzamin.org/Sarzaminmusic/Pe...
7.(Keep me in your memory: 2005) http://www.sarzamin.org/Sarzaminmusic/Pe...
8.(Farangis %26quot;A female name%26quot; 2007) http://download.bia2music.com/Music/Iran...
9.(The distance: 2007) http://www.sarzaminsong.com/Sarzaminmusi...
10.(Sunrise: 2007) http://www.sarzaminsong.com/Sarzaminmusi...
11.(Stop world:2006) http://www.sarzaminmusic.com/Sarzaminmus...
12.(You can%26#039;t: 2007) http://www.sarzaminmp3.com/Sarzaminmusic...
And so on and on!
It%26#039;s now 2007 and most people still think we are uneducated people living in deserts and riding camels!
Part 2: Political info.
Let%26#039;s clarify some political issues as well: Some of the Americans think that president Ahmadinejad hates the U.S and Israel and wants to nuke them!! The Media are good at putting lying comments out there. I really don%26#039;t get the point why our politicians defame themselves by talking about things that have got nothing to do with us. The thing is that they occasionally make some statements that the media would make them controversial topics to interest its viewers! For example they pick up some specific phrases of a long speech (without refering to the main points and reasons for that speech) and put so many bad comments on that.
First of all, Iranians don%26#039;t hate anyone.We hate neither Jews nor Americans. How would our guys dream of America, want to be like them as much as possible, and hate them at the same time?! The truth us that Iranians are the only people in the Mid-East that are pro-American! Being agaisnt the U.S policies is a different story! We live basically the same lives.Don%26#039;t look at the way women dress in public places! You%26#039;ve got to see them in other places!I%26#039;ve got to say that for Iran, Israel is not equal with Jews! Israel is a gov%26#039;t. Jews are faithful people! 20,000 Jews and lots of Christians live here equally with Iranians and two of Iran%26#039;s parliment members are Jews. Who says we want to force others to convert to Islam? Have you ever found a Moslem knocking at your door asking you to do so?
Christians and Jews are both God-believers and respectful to us.
I wonder who Iran is really a threat to. Is it logical to say someone%26#039;s guilty because we THINK / PREDICT that he%26#039;s going to do something wrong? And they repeat the same %26quot;nuclear weapons%26quot; tosh over and over and brainwash people! Correction! It%26#039;s %26quot;nuclear energy%26quot;. Besides, how many %26quot;nuclear weapons%26quot; do they have themselves? Hundreds of thousands? Has Iran ever attacked any countries? No. Has it developed any nukes? No! That%26#039;s what nuclear agency says. Only Iran%26#039;s opponents are pulling Iran%26#039;s leg and what they say is just based on political conflicts. What we%26#039;re doing is legal. Iran is a peaceful country. Why? It%26#039;s the regional super-power and if she wanted, she could easily invade the countries in our neibourhood just like what Saddam did to our country, but as you see Iran has peaceful relations with all of them.
Some people say he said: Israel should be wiped off the map! the thing is that he exactly said: %26quot;The Imam %26quot;Khomeyni%26quot; said this regime occupying Jerusalem must vanish from the page of time.%26quot;They%26#039;ve only told you this phrase not the whole thing and it%26#039;s mistranslated intentionally. Besides, they%26#039;ve been saying such things for a long time.It%26#039;s their habit.Here%26#039;s an article.%26quot;Wiped off the map....The roumor of the century.Read how the media and the U.S newspapers have twisted it into a controvertioal topic. http://www.antiwar.com/orig/norouzi.php?... Now you see that you were wrong.Iran has always defended itself, but it%26#039;s not an offensive country.
Some say he%26#039;s said: %26quot;The Holocaust is a myth!%26quot; Again, this is a single phrase taken from a long speech and there are totally logical reasons for saying so. If 6,000,000 Jews were killed, that%26#039;s terrible, but 300,000 Shiite Moslems killed by Saddam aren%26#039;t important at all? Over 650,000 Iraqi people are killed and that%26#039;s not important?! When Fox News simply says that America and Israel are capable of destroying and killing Iran%26#039;s population of 69,000,000 within two weeks, it%26#039;s OK and no one says they%26#039;re threatening other countries to nuke them (I saw this with my own eyes on the Fox News website) Millions of people killed in Afghanistan, Hiroshima %26amp; Nagasaki and the Vietnam war are not considered human beings at all! Now I think you%26#039;d get the point why he%26#039;s IRONICALLY said it%26#039;s a myth. Moreover, don%26#039;t you believe in freedom of speech/mind? Well, if you%26#039;d like to blame someone for that, hope in a time-machine and sue Hitler! lol
Some countries are using Iran as a scapegoat to put the blame (for their own faults) on.
This part is just for Americans:
Those of you who say why Iran says %26quot;Death to America%26quot;:
1. %26#039;America%26#039; to us means the U.S govt, not the people. How do you expect Iranians to mean %26quot;American people%26quot; when our media admires Americans for marching and holding up %26quot;no war%26quot; placards?! Also, I see a lot of %26quot;Let%26#039;s nuke Iran%26quot;s on YA.Isn%26#039;t that a kind of %26quot;Death to Iran%26quot;?
2. The new generation don%26#039;t say such things and if some of them occasionally march in the streets that%26#039;s because some of the stupid guys enjoy making noise and they mainly go out there to meet their girlfriends/boyfriends! Strange. Isn%26#039;t it?
3. Such mottos are not just said in Iran and as you know whatever you hear is a response to the U.S govt%26#039;s terrible actions which has made life for many people hell (You wouldn%26#039;t deny that attacking countries is a mistake. Would you?)
4. U.S. companies assistance in developing Iraq%26#039;s chemical weapons facilities during the Iran-Iraq war which killed over a million Iranians
5. USS Vincennes shooting down Iran Air Flight 655 with many civilian fatalities
6.U.S. Support for anti-Iranian terrorist organisations (i.e. the MKO);
7. Economic damage caused by U.S. sanctions and political pressure; U.S. UAV overflights over Iran violating Iranian airspace since 2003.
When you call Ahmadinejad a nutcase for what he%26#039;s said, what do you call Bush for his war crimes?
To those who are upset with American hostages taken for 444 days:
1. Firstly, It%26#039;s related to so many years ago and it%26#039;s almost a part of history, and don%26#039;t forget that when there%26#039;s a revolution, there%26#039;d be chaos and people may do things that they should not, moreover they%26#039;re all alive and healthy. Aren%26#039;t they?
2.The U.S has arrested Iranian diplomats in Iraq and had tortured the one who was freed. Now you decide who has the right to be upset with whom. How do you believe in their lies about politics when they hide both the most and the least important things from you considering the fact that politics is the world of lies in its nature?!!!
If you like to insist on your theory of attacking Israel, I%26#039;ll tell you our logical theory: %26quot;The moment that Iran attacks Israel, Iran will be wiped off the face of the earth by the U.S and its allies and Iran is far more logical than doing such a stupid thing%26quot; So, forget about it.I%26#039;m quite sure you know that all the events and lies in the world are a part of a pre-planned scenario by major world-powers (Iran as an important country has always been a part of their plans)And the first step is to brainwash people.They excactly know what will happen even 50 years later! I think Iraq is such a good example.Attacking it with the excuse of removing Saddam while they%26#039;d put Saddam there themselves and had supported him for years! They said they had W.M.Ds and you believed them.Now they say Iran (a member of N.P.T) has nukes / is developing nukes and you believe them wilhe the nuclear agency hasn%26#039;t found any sign of illegal activities.Time to wake up!
Isn%26#039;t it better for both countries to forget past conflicts and to have peaceful relations? Our two gov%26#039;ts are like 10 year old children playing a stupid, harsh, rhetorical game. They don%26#039;t care about hurting people%26#039;s feelings. They just try to make our two peoples enemies to achieve their own goals. We, as the people of these countries, MUST NOT allow these conflics into our hearts. Now, what do you think? I can%26#039;t wait to see both nations in peace. It%26#039;d be marvelous!
Did you find my article informative? : )
Thanks for your time
Reply:Whoa Jack! I don%26#039;t have anything against Iranians. I may not like their government. But I have nothing against them as individuals.
All I%26#039;m going to say is I would have found a good Arab sniper and taken Saddam out with a Chinese sniper rifle. And his boys too. But I%26#039;m not in charge.
Don%26#039;t lump individuals into groups. If you are going to dislike someone do it personally.
Reply:You expect me to waste my precious time reading 1/2 hour worth of garbage that you posted with the intent of making people waste 1/2 hour of their precious time. i think not, tard!
Reply:Yawn, again, jeshh don%26#039;t you have school or a job or something?
Reply:Thanks for the information, but Americans already know all this about you.
We also know that your govt supports Hamas as its %26quot;Plausible Deniabity%26quot; group for sponsored terrorism. We also know the propaganda that covers bulidings in Downtown Tehran saying things like %26quot;Death to America%26quot;.
By the way, these photos arent 20 years old..
http://www.faithfreedom.org/Gallery/4.ht...
Here%26#039;s a long list of how %26quot;well%26quot; your people are treated by their own govt..
http://web.amnesty.org/library/eng-irn/i...
The list of the bases used for training terrorists identified are as follows:
1) Imam Ali Training Garrison, Tajrish Square, Tehran,
2) Bahonar Garrison, Chalous Street, close to the dam of Karaj,
3) Qom鈥檚 Ali-Abad Garrison, Tehran-Qom highway,
4) Mostafa Khomeini Garrison, Eshrat-Abad district, Tehran,
5) Crate Camp Garrison, 40 kilometres from the Ahwaz-Mahshar highway,
6) Fateh Qani-Hosseini Garrison, between Tehran and Qom
7) Qayour Asli Garrison, 30 kilometres from Ahwaz-Khorramshahr highway,
8) Abouzar Garrison, Qaleh-Shahin district, Ahwaz, Khuzestan province
9) Hezbollah Garrison, Varamin, east of Tehran
10) Eezeh Training Garrison
11) Amir-ol-Momenin Garrison, Ban-Roushan, Ilam province
12) Kothar Training Garrison, Dezful Street, Shoushtar, Khuzestan province
13) Imam Sadeq Garrison, Qom
14) Lavizan Training Centre, north-east Tehran
15) Abyek Training Centre, west of Tehran
16) Dervish Training Centre, 18 kilometres from the Ahwaz-Mahshar highway,
17) Qazanchi Training Centre, Ravansar-Kermanshah-Kamyaran tri-junction,
18) Beit-ol-Moqaddas University, Qom
19) Navab Safavi School, Ahwaz
20) Nahavand Training Centre, 45 kilometres from Nahavand, western Iran
EDIT: Terrorists are Terrorists..PERIOD..They are not defenders when they launch offensive actions against innocent civillians.
As for your comment about the prisons, may I remind you that they are a AFTER result of Terrorism which had gone largely unanswered for too long and has been widely sponsored by your country and Saudi Arabia.
Let%26#039;s talk about secret groups, Do you know a supersecret group called Department 9000, which is part of the elite Quds Force of the Iranian Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps, according to U.S. officials familiar with intelligence reporting and analysis on the Iraqi insurgency. Department 9000 acts as a liaison between the insurgents and the IRGC, the Iranian regime%26#039;s principal internal-security mechanism, providing guidance and support.
1. Cultural and general info
2. Political info.
Note: I%26#039;ve explained everything.Any answers before reading the whole thing will prove to be wrong.Specially the political part.I%26#039;ve provided evidence for whatever I say.It%26#039;s just the way it is.
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Part 1: Cultural and general info
Hi. I%26#039;m a 19 year old Iranian who has spent his life in Iran.I study English.When I chat with people from other countries, I am shocked to see how totally wrong their ideas are about Iran. I wrote this article in an attempt to help correct those ideas.
The first thing the West accuses our government of is that we don%26#039;t allow personal freedoms. Actually, Iranians disobey laws they don%26#039;t like as much as anyone.There are only a few restrictions.It%26#039;s cool over here. People here do whatever they wish to! Many strict rules in other countries don%26#039;t even exist in Iran. Also, you should understand that what may seem so normal to you, may be a nightmare for us and vise versa.Some of Iran%26#039;s laws are based on OUR culture. You look at our country from %26quot;your own point of view%26quot;! In Iran most houses have a sattelite dish. Sattelite television has a serious influence on our people, and Iranians wear very fashionable clothing. Maybe it is a kind of imitation, but we still have our own unique Iranian style. A visitor might wonder if this is a country or a fantasy pageant of beauty queens! Make-up and fashionable clothing are everywhere.I ignore a few fuddy-duddies though!
In my view, everything is great, if you ignore unemployment, drugs, inflation and air pollution. Also, you can%26#039;t compare Iran today with the Iran you remember. The Shah and the Iatollah Khomini are both some 30 years in the past! 70% of Iran%26#039;s population is a new generation (Under age 30) without the biases of the past and we%26#039;ve transformed everything.
Ever heard Iranian girls are terrific?I%26#039;ve collected some photos showing Iranian girls! Look! Poeple are like this!
http://www.salijoon.ir/bazigar/hedye%20t...
http://www.30nema.com/images/gallery/30n...
http://i10.tinypic.com/4clk3us.jpg
http://tinypic.com/2d0nfao.jpg Is that enough?!
Some people think women don%26#039;t have any rights in Iran. But in my view, women are overrunning the place. They%26#039;re very respectful, and they%26#039;ve been the winners in so many cases: Most of them get into the best universities because they%26#039;re very smart. And they get the best jobs because of their high university degrees. They%26#039;ve got Islamic rights, and that has in some cases made it difficult for men to marry them, because husbands are supposed to buy them expensive things and treat them very well, otherwise women have the right to ask a great amount of money (called Mehr) according to the law, which most husbands cannot afford, so men will be imprisoned.The only thing that women are not allowed to do in Iran is getting into public football stadiums and that%26#039;s because such places are full of cheeky guys. They do anything from taking part in rallies to singing pop songs.Anything! I%26#039;ve put a sample here.
Another funny thing: Your footage about stoning the women who have committed adultery. Have you ever asked yourselves how many years ago that footage related to? But in one case the thing that had happened was incest not adultery. Most of those footages relate to the early days just after Iran%26#039;s revolution! Otherwise you%26#039;d get new footages at least once a month!What exactly makes you think women are treated differently?The way they are treated in Saudi Arabia? Try to think of the racism in your country too.I found a BOOK of the U.S problems and it got me dizzy! Iran has its own problems too. Each country has its own problems.
Iran, Iraq and Afghanistan are --------- SEPERATE COUNTRIES! --------- Even within Iran, 60% of us are Persian and 30% are Turkish! Iran is a normal country like any other in the world. The Media are very good at creating really scary stuff: %26quot;IRAN BEHIND THE CLOSED DOORS!!!%26quot; %26quot;IRAN UNDERCOVER!!!%26quot; Some of that garbage would be enough to scare ME away! But in truth, Iranians are far more open-minded than you have been led to believe.
There are lots of Iranians today who are geniuses and scientists, and are all under age 25. For instance a 17 year old boy has invented 72 amazing inventions. Every year a special scientific compeition is held here and students assemble to show off hundreds of inventions. Iranian students and sportsmen win gold and silver medals in different competitions in the world all the time, in robotics, biology, maths, physics, sports, anything! Why don%26#039;t the Media talk about them? Please don%26#039;t summarize our nation and culture with the single word %26quot;nuclear%26quot;. Although we%26#039;re proud of this achievement because we believe that having nuclear energy means that a country is developed.
A few months ago Iran uncovered the most effective anti-H.I.V medicine. I searched for news of that on the internet, but there was no single sign of it.Now, I found it among the English news: %26quot;The medicine is produced from herbs using nano technology%26quot; The link to read about it is: http://www.payvand.com/news/07/feb/1032....
The Media are unjust. They never talk about facts!
Some interesting facts:
Iran is a pioneer in medicine and genetics, and Iranian surgeons have found lots of new methods for treating spinal defects, and many diseases (mainly the treatment for different types of cancer) and the best brain and heart surgeons are Iranian.The pioneer in heart transplants and artificiall hearts and so on and so! (I%26#039;ve put two websites below) The head of the Mars Mission in NASA is Iranian. One of the best designers of sports cars working in Germany is Iranian. Some of the best 3D animators are Iranian. Iran is one of the best countries in counter-engineering. Holds the second place in building dams and in loads of other things! It%26#039;s one of the top countries in bio-technology and nano-technology. The 4th highest tower in the world (Milad tower) is in Tehran (visit it at this link from wikipedia: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Milad... ). 51 of the top 100 universities in the Mid-East are in Iran, and they%26#039;re among the top universities of the world as well. The champion weight-lifter, a woman the nobel peace prize are Iranian. The 6th top movie director in the world is Iranian.(Abbas Kiarostami) http://arts.guardian.co.uk/fridayreview/...
These are just small samples.If the media told you about Iran%26#039;s achievemens everyday and didn%26#039;t hide them, your news would be full of Iranian news!Iranian girls are famous for being terrific. We have Persian rugs and Persian literature, many Persian poets, artists and scientists that are world famous. Iranian culture is now westernized and only a little of the ancient culture has survived. According to statistics Tehran is the cheapest capital city in the world (one Dollar =about 950 Tomans) There are many other things. How many pages would you need to describe a country? Iran has nearly all the industries and technologies found in %26#039;developed%26#039; countries. Oh, and we have four seasons! We get a lot of snow and there are skating rinks! lol The list is endless.
I%26#039;m gonna introduce Iran%26#039;s international news website to you (Press TV) which was established recently. It%26#039;s fully in English. In the %26quot;Sic / Tech%26quot; section you%26#039;ll always see Iran%26#039;s discoveries. The address is: http://www.presstv.ir/news.aspx Press TV news: Iranian scientists have registered more than 4800 inventions during the last Iranian calendar year of 1385 (April 21 2006-April 20, 2007). 4800 inventions in just one year!
The list of highly-respected Iranian scientists and engineers in the world: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Modern_Iran...
The list of notable Iranian figures and pioneers: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Contemporar...
An extract: Iranian medical community is a significant part of medical community in US and Europe
Enough evidence?
Some people think Iran is a desert! Well, it is, if you consider California a desert. We share the same latitude. Iran is a modern country with breathtakingly beautiful nature and lots of historic places to visit. Please take a look at the following links to see if Iran looks like what you think or not! This is a photo of Tehran (Awesome, Isn%26#039;t it?): http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/co...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tehran
If you like you can visit these too, hundreds of pretty photos from the cities, nature and historic places:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Hills...
http://www.pbase.com/k_amj/throughout_ir...
http://www.pbase.com/k_amj/throughout_ir...
http://www.pbase.com/k_amj/throughout_ir...
http://www.bigsoccer.com:80/forum/showth...
http://www.bigsoccer.com/forum/showthrea...
http://www.bigsoccer.com/forum/showthrea...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iran
Some people think music is forbidden in Iran. %26quot;Music of Iran and Iranian musicians have received countless awards in the course of history. Every year from 1977 to 2007.Evidence? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Music_of_Ir...
I send Iranian music to my American and Canadian chat friends and they all say they%26#039;re some of the best songs they%26#039;ve ever heard.
Here%26#039;s a sample of the latest hits from two official Iranian music websites.You can just right click on the links below and choose %26quot;Save Target As%26quot; to download them. Iranian music is just modern pop and the best sort of it.
1.(You know this: 2007) http://download.bia2music.com/Music/Iran...
2.(Hold my hand: 2007) http://www.sarzaminmp3.com/Sarzaminmusic...
3.(The wetness of your eyes: 2006) http://download.bia2music.com/Music/Iran...
4.(I just want you: 2003) http://download.bia2music.com/Music/Iran...
5.(The rain: 2007) http://download.bia2music.com/Music/Iran...
6.(The window: 2005) http://www.sarzamin.org/Sarzaminmusic/Pe...
7.(Keep me in your memory: 2005) http://www.sarzamin.org/Sarzaminmusic/Pe...
8.(Farangis %26quot;A female name%26quot; 2007) http://download.bia2music.com/Music/Iran...
9.(The distance: 2007) http://www.sarzaminsong.com/Sarzaminmusi...
10.(Sunrise: 2007) http://www.sarzaminsong.com/Sarzaminmusi...
11.(Stop world:2006) http://www.sarzaminmusic.com/Sarzaminmus...
12.(You can%26#039;t: 2007) http://www.sarzaminmp3.com/Sarzaminmusic...
And so on and on!
It%26#039;s now 2007 and most people still think we are uneducated people living in deserts and riding camels!
Part 2: Political info.
Let%26#039;s clarify some political issues as well: Some of the Americans think that president Ahmadinejad hates the U.S and Israel and wants to nuke them!! The Media are good at putting lying comments out there. I really don%26#039;t get the point why our politicians defame themselves by talking about things that have got nothing to do with us. The thing is that they occasionally make some statements that the media would make them controversial topics to interest its viewers! For example they pick up some specific phrases of a long speech (without refering to the main points and reasons for that speech) and put so many bad comments on that.
First of all, Iranians don%26#039;t hate anyone.We hate neither Jews nor Americans. How would our guys dream of America, want to be like them as much as possible, and hate them at the same time?! The truth us that Iranians are the only people in the Mid-East that are pro-American! Being agaisnt the U.S policies is a different story! We live basically the same lives.Don%26#039;t look at the way women dress in public places! You%26#039;ve got to see them in other places!I%26#039;ve got to say that for Iran, Israel is not equal with Jews! Israel is a gov%26#039;t. Jews are faithful people! 20,000 Jews and lots of Christians live here equally with Iranians and two of Iran%26#039;s parliment members are Jews. Who says we want to force others to convert to Islam? Have you ever found a Moslem knocking at your door asking you to do so?
Christians and Jews are both God-believers and respectful to us.
I wonder who Iran is really a threat to. Is it logical to say someone%26#039;s guilty because we THINK / PREDICT that he%26#039;s going to do something wrong? And they repeat the same %26quot;nuclear weapons%26quot; tosh over and over and brainwash people! Correction! It%26#039;s %26quot;nuclear energy%26quot;. Besides, how many %26quot;nuclear weapons%26quot; do they have themselves? Hundreds of thousands? Has Iran ever attacked any countries? No. Has it developed any nukes? No! That%26#039;s what nuclear agency says. Only Iran%26#039;s opponents are pulling Iran%26#039;s leg and what they say is just based on political conflicts. What we%26#039;re doing is legal. Iran is a peaceful country. Why? It%26#039;s the regional super-power and if she wanted, she could easily invade the countries in our neibourhood just like what Saddam did to our country, but as you see Iran has peaceful relations with all of them.
Some people say he said: Israel should be wiped off the map! the thing is that he exactly said: %26quot;The Imam %26quot;Khomeyni%26quot; said this regime occupying Jerusalem must vanish from the page of time.%26quot;They%26#039;ve only told you this phrase not the whole thing and it%26#039;s mistranslated intentionally. Besides, they%26#039;ve been saying such things for a long time.It%26#039;s their habit.Here%26#039;s an article.%26quot;Wiped off the map....The roumor of the century.Read how the media and the U.S newspapers have twisted it into a controvertioal topic. http://www.antiwar.com/orig/norouzi.php?... Now you see that you were wrong.Iran has always defended itself, but it%26#039;s not an offensive country.
Some say he%26#039;s said: %26quot;The Holocaust is a myth!%26quot; Again, this is a single phrase taken from a long speech and there are totally logical reasons for saying so. If 6,000,000 Jews were killed, that%26#039;s terrible, but 300,000 Shiite Moslems killed by Saddam aren%26#039;t important at all? Over 650,000 Iraqi people are killed and that%26#039;s not important?! When Fox News simply says that America and Israel are capable of destroying and killing Iran%26#039;s population of 69,000,000 within two weeks, it%26#039;s OK and no one says they%26#039;re threatening other countries to nuke them (I saw this with my own eyes on the Fox News website) Millions of people killed in Afghanistan, Hiroshima %26amp; Nagasaki and the Vietnam war are not considered human beings at all! Now I think you%26#039;d get the point why he%26#039;s IRONICALLY said it%26#039;s a myth. Moreover, don%26#039;t you believe in freedom of speech/mind? Well, if you%26#039;d like to blame someone for that, hope in a time-machine and sue Hitler! lol
Some countries are using Iran as a scapegoat to put the blame (for their own faults) on.
This part is just for Americans:
Those of you who say why Iran says %26quot;Death to America%26quot;:
1. %26#039;America%26#039; to us means the U.S govt, not the people. How do you expect Iranians to mean %26quot;American people%26quot; when our media admires Americans for marching and holding up %26quot;no war%26quot; placards?! Also, I see a lot of %26quot;Let%26#039;s nuke Iran%26quot;s on YA.Isn%26#039;t that a kind of %26quot;Death to Iran%26quot;?
2. The new generation don%26#039;t say such things and if some of them occasionally march in the streets that%26#039;s because some of the stupid guys enjoy making noise and they mainly go out there to meet their girlfriends/boyfriends! Strange. Isn%26#039;t it?
3. Such mottos are not just said in Iran and as you know whatever you hear is a response to the U.S govt%26#039;s terrible actions which has made life for many people hell (You wouldn%26#039;t deny that attacking countries is a mistake. Would you?)
4. U.S. companies assistance in developing Iraq%26#039;s chemical weapons facilities during the Iran-Iraq war which killed over a million Iranians
5. USS Vincennes shooting down Iran Air Flight 655 with many civilian fatalities
6.U.S. Support for anti-Iranian terrorist organisations (i.e. the MKO);
7. Economic damage caused by U.S. sanctions and political pressure; U.S. UAV overflights over Iran violating Iranian airspace since 2003.
When you call Ahmadinejad a nutcase for what he%26#039;s said, what do you call Bush for his war crimes?
To those who are upset with American hostages taken for 444 days:
1. Firstly, It%26#039;s related to so many years ago and it%26#039;s almost a part of history, and don%26#039;t forget that when there%26#039;s a revolution, there%26#039;d be chaos and people may do things that they should not, moreover they%26#039;re all alive and healthy. Aren%26#039;t they?
2.The U.S has arrested Iranian diplomats in Iraq and had tortured the one who was freed. Now you decide who has the right to be upset with whom. How do you believe in their lies about politics when they hide both the most and the least important things from you considering the fact that politics is the world of lies in its nature?!!!
If you like to insist on your theory of attacking Israel, I%26#039;ll tell you our logical theory: %26quot;The moment that Iran attacks Israel, Iran will be wiped off the face of the earth by the U.S and its allies and Iran is far more logical than doing such a stupid thing%26quot; So, forget about it.I%26#039;m quite sure you know that all the events and lies in the world are a part of a pre-planned scenario by major world-powers (Iran as an important country has always been a part of their plans)And the first step is to brainwash people.They excactly know what will happen even 50 years later! I think Iraq is such a good example.Attacking it with the excuse of removing Saddam while they%26#039;d put Saddam there themselves and had supported him for years! They said they had W.M.Ds and you believed them.Now they say Iran (a member of N.P.T) has nukes / is developing nukes and you believe them wilhe the nuclear agency hasn%26#039;t found any sign of illegal activities.Time to wake up!
Isn%26#039;t it better for both countries to forget past conflicts and to have peaceful relations? Our two gov%26#039;ts are like 10 year old children playing a stupid, harsh, rhetorical game. They don%26#039;t care about hurting people%26#039;s feelings. They just try to make our two peoples enemies to achieve their own goals. We, as the people of these countries, MUST NOT allow these conflics into our hearts. Now, what do you think? I can%26#039;t wait to see both nations in peace. It%26#039;d be marvelous!
Did you find my article informative? : )
Thanks for your time
Reply:Whoa Jack! I don%26#039;t have anything against Iranians. I may not like their government. But I have nothing against them as individuals.
All I%26#039;m going to say is I would have found a good Arab sniper and taken Saddam out with a Chinese sniper rifle. And his boys too. But I%26#039;m not in charge.
Don%26#039;t lump individuals into groups. If you are going to dislike someone do it personally.
Reply:You expect me to waste my precious time reading 1/2 hour worth of garbage that you posted with the intent of making people waste 1/2 hour of their precious time. i think not, tard!
Reply:Yawn, again, jeshh don%26#039;t you have school or a job or something?
Reply:Thanks for the information, but Americans already know all this about you.
We also know that your govt supports Hamas as its %26quot;Plausible Deniabity%26quot; group for sponsored terrorism. We also know the propaganda that covers bulidings in Downtown Tehran saying things like %26quot;Death to America%26quot;.
By the way, these photos arent 20 years old..
http://www.faithfreedom.org/Gallery/4.ht...
Here%26#039;s a long list of how %26quot;well%26quot; your people are treated by their own govt..
http://web.amnesty.org/library/eng-irn/i...
The list of the bases used for training terrorists identified are as follows:
1) Imam Ali Training Garrison, Tajrish Square, Tehran,
2) Bahonar Garrison, Chalous Street, close to the dam of Karaj,
3) Qom鈥檚 Ali-Abad Garrison, Tehran-Qom highway,
4) Mostafa Khomeini Garrison, Eshrat-Abad district, Tehran,
5) Crate Camp Garrison, 40 kilometres from the Ahwaz-Mahshar highway,
6) Fateh Qani-Hosseini Garrison, between Tehran and Qom
7) Qayour Asli Garrison, 30 kilometres from Ahwaz-Khorramshahr highway,
8) Abouzar Garrison, Qaleh-Shahin district, Ahwaz, Khuzestan province
9) Hezbollah Garrison, Varamin, east of Tehran
10) Eezeh Training Garrison
11) Amir-ol-Momenin Garrison, Ban-Roushan, Ilam province
12) Kothar Training Garrison, Dezful Street, Shoushtar, Khuzestan province
13) Imam Sadeq Garrison, Qom
14) Lavizan Training Centre, north-east Tehran
15) Abyek Training Centre, west of Tehran
16) Dervish Training Centre, 18 kilometres from the Ahwaz-Mahshar highway,
17) Qazanchi Training Centre, Ravansar-Kermanshah-Kamyaran tri-junction,
18) Beit-ol-Moqaddas University, Qom
19) Navab Safavi School, Ahwaz
20) Nahavand Training Centre, 45 kilometres from Nahavand, western Iran
EDIT: Terrorists are Terrorists..PERIOD..They are not defenders when they launch offensive actions against innocent civillians.
As for your comment about the prisons, may I remind you that they are a AFTER result of Terrorism which had gone largely unanswered for too long and has been widely sponsored by your country and Saudi Arabia.
Let%26#039;s talk about secret groups, Do you know a supersecret group called Department 9000, which is part of the elite Quds Force of the Iranian Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps, according to U.S. officials familiar with intelligence reporting and analysis on the Iraqi insurgency. Department 9000 acts as a liaison between the insurgents and the IRGC, the Iranian regime%26#039;s principal internal-security mechanism, providing guidance and support.
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